Unions are just another lobbyist. They do not care about the people they represent, they only care about taking your money so they have more power and influence in DC. I’m sure most of you CWA folks have been here a while. Ask yourselves, what has the union done for me? I have yet to hear anything good about the CWA. Sounds like paying maintenance fees on a timeshare. When this is all over please inform us all what was gained so we at least know it was worth it. I truly wish you all the best but don’t let yourselves get caught up in politics.
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"Exactly, they are getting paid to collective bargain, should they do it for free? Strike pay is this week and 3 paydays in August, yawn. Try something else troll.
Let me turn it for you, HR bargainers are sleeping in their own beds and bargaining in a nice A/C conference room. While contingency workers are working in other states, sleeping in a hotel bed and working outside for 12 hour days in high heat and dangerous environments for the same salary."
Must have hit a nerve. Preach unity my guy, just saying if they were having to live off strike pay, maybe they'd try harder. They've been sitting in an air conditioned space all summer negotiating and bragging about who brought them lunch, while the rest of us minions have been slaving away in the heat. Also, since there's a mediator now, we should be back to work, it's called negotiating, whether or not you like what the other brings to the table, you're still bargaining some how, even the updates tell us they've made minor steps forward. So no matter how you spin that, the ulp strike should be over. Another thing, most of the people that are on strike work like that year round in the heat, cold, rain, and whatever else you want to spew. Sorry those CP workers are having to work harder, instead of getting to sit and home and deligate from their couch in their underwear.
“working outside for 12 hour days in high heat and dangerous environments for the same salary.”
Haha, I’d have to disagree with the working 12 hours outside. The managers at our site, leave late and return by 2:30-3PM most days. It’s ok, saves more work for us upon return. The load has got to be building exponentially, we will be working 6 days a week or 13/1 for a while once, we return. Last ULP strike in 2019 was only 4 days and we worked 6 days a week for a while after it was over.
“Remember the bargaining team is getting a full paycheck, while you are sweating your a-s off....”
Exactly, they are getting paid to collective bargain, should they do it for free? Strike pay is this week and 3 paydays in August, yawn. Try something else troll.
Let me turn it for you, HR bargainers are sleeping in their own beds and bargaining in a nice A/C conference room. While contingency workers are working in other states, sleeping in a hotel bed and working outside for 12 hour days in high heat and dangerous environments for the same salary.
Remember the bargaining team is getting a full paycheck, while you are sweating your a-s off....
This one definitely is. How about the people at the bargaining table go stand outside under a tent this week in 100 degree heat? Bet it would get resolved real quick.
The nfl, nba, nhl and all of the actors are part of unions and they make millions. Why bash when they can be so effective?
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Unions = 2+ years severance, so not a scam
Assuming you:
- can get hired in the first place. unions concentrate wages in the hands of a few decreasing the number of available jobs.
- don't get laid off so some longer tenured employee can keep his job before you get to that point
I am mad that I am not getting everything I am asking for.
Unions = 2+ years severance, so not a scam
Oh, here we go again. Someone that wants to vent about the union and their shortcomings. He could run for local office or become a steward but that would take a commitment to help others. Sounds like it's a personal issue that needs to be addressed locally at a membership meeting.
‘’ Not all unions are scams, but this one is more concerned with finding ways for people to work less than it is with improving the workplace. They are FMLA and Job Accommodation specialists who teach people how to game the system. I feel bad for those who need the union for legitimate reasons but they are too busy keeping their inner circle from being written up or terminated.”
This is the most accurate post on this site in months. At the local level, the “leadership” brags about going on UA time to avoid jobs they don’t want to dispatch on.
I would think that the Stink would be involved in any scam!
It's not a invasion, it's cultural enrichment. They just can't enrich their motherland anymore! Joy and happiness to you all. Embrace the change, be the change. Do more with much less. You deserve it.
OK, you asked. I was able to make a good living, raise a family in a house built on property purchased with the income that was always higher than non union jobs similar to mine. I met some wonderfully good people both management and craft through my career. I also met some that had character defects. I am sitting here retired reading posts from some that are trying to spread fear and dissension because they enjoy misery. I will tell you though the biggest compliment I received was from a customer that was an instructor at IBM. His compliment was that BellSouth/Att Union craft were quicker to pick up the learning curve due to their intellect. I have been through many contracts and while not fun, if a strike was called it was necessary to maintain wages and benefits that I use today. To hear the company's negotiation team label employees as 2nd class make my blood boil and anyone, management or craft should be insulted. That my friend is just a little of what my Union did for me.
In 2024 EVERYTHING is a scam.
Company union breakers always try to use corruption as a reason to dissolve. Guess what? There is corruption in all industries and government, it’s not specific to a “union”. Bad characters are everywhere, they are investigated and prosecuted when found to be in violation of the law. Nice try, go tell daddy Stink you failed again.
Unions have won just a few worker rights for all:
This a partial list of union victories, tell us what you would like to be excluded for you.
- 8 hour work day
- 2 day weekend off
- 40 hr work week
- OT pay
- Minimum wage
- Vacation or PTO
- Paid Holidays
- Healthcare
- Child labor laws
- anti-discrimination protections
- Workman’s Comp
- Sick Leave
- Family Leave
- Age discrimination protections
- pensions
- grievance process
Not all unions are scams, but this one is more concerned with finding ways for people to work less than it is with improving the workplace. They are FMLA and Job Accommodation specialists who teach people how to game the system. I feel bad for those who need the union for legitimate reasons but they are too busy keeping their inner circle from being written up or terminated.
Not a non- profit organization.... you do the math!
Unions are legalized extortionists because they were closely tied to organized crime early on and still are. Idk about CWA, but IBEW certainly is as well as the Teamsters. Bottom line is if the mob can infiltrate 2 very large and powerful unions, then CWA is a pushover. They are definitely paying their share of street tax to the mob!
Enough already, the union has been around since 1910 for telecom workers. Your pitiful attempts to change minds is pathetic. If you really want to know what the union has fought for and won then, go do some labor research. Nearly all current work rules, benefits and rights for all workers, both bargained and non bargained are a direct result of collective bargaining.
Is it a perfect system? No, nothing ever is perfect, work in progress.
When the dust settles it will be some measly contract, and we will be told that we're lucky to have a job. Same ole song and dance. Feels like the CWA is going the way of the dodo bird....