Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

HR has been running reports on presence at your designated location since Jan 1st. I have a few peers that have gotten their official warnings for showing up to an office closer to them, but not their designation. its a tangled web. Stanks wasn't wrong when he said that some people would have to make tough decisions. He expects it because he saw the data that led him to believe it before he created your hot box.

someone told me that on some internal site someone asked why aren't these reports available to everyone and the answer given was "it was implemented but upper level squashed it."

SentinelOne and other end-point protection software does report on running processes and time, but we’ve had that feature for literally years but it’s to ensure literal viruses and other dangerous software isn’t running, not to track productivity.

What are you going to glean from someone’s running processes?
Ensure they have Teams open? They could just open it and leave it open…

How does this solve any of these tracking problems they have? Don’t be ridiculous.

Are they going to start counting how many hours you spend in Excel now?
What about developers and other technical folk who don’t use PowerPoint at all? Should I just start a PowerPoint process and let it run in the background? Write a script to just open word and constantly type gibberish and delete it and let it run?
ROFL. What a joke.

“Maybe no, but They can also tell exactly which applications you’ve been in and for how long. I’m sitting here looking at the data right now.”

Doesn’t that feature only work for Microsoft office products?

Don’t be obtuse to scare people.

“They track your presence via swipes, connecting to the LAN or WiFi. They are not tracking actual time spent on the LAN or wifi. Anyone telling you they do is incorrect”

Maybe no, but They can also tell exactly which applications you’ve been in and for how long. I’m sitting here looking at the data right now.

“Then get a job that allows you to gain those commute hours back and quit crying like an adolescent. Do you believe your whining will cause a policy change? If not, are you whining for the sake of whining or to get attention like adolescent children do?”

Apparently it’s getting your attention so.
Even negative attention that draws workers away from being productive can be conducive to enactment policy change.

If it’s determined that it’s damaging productivity enough to lose money, they will be forced to face that maybe it isn’t the best path forward.

"Work your 8 hours and then leave your computer connected to the LAN in the office when you are done for the day. "

Do that and the best case scenario is you come back to find somebody shoved your sh-t to the side and took the seat.

First and last 10m of my day is setting up whatever work space i managed to carve out ala Hunger Game with the other rando's.

“ “Jesus, why are people spending so much time trying to figure out and/or game the system. Just go in to the damn office at least 3 days a week or 5 if that's your group's directive; it's really not that hard.”
Said by someone who has never had to commute to the Dallas office and find somewhere to park.

You’re out 2+ hours in your day right there.

People also don’t want to live in cities anymore, especially not to just make Stankey happy.

If you have to take toll roads to commute to Dallas you’re also looking at hundreds in additional expense each month.

It isn’t trivial.

People know WFH works and is more efficient, we refuse to go back to the way things were for no reason except “Stankey wants a nice report””

Then get a job that allows you to gain those commute hours back and quit crying like an adolescent. Do you believe your whining will cause a policy change? If not, are you whining for the sake of whining or to get attention like adolescent children do?

Be where you are supposed to be and doing what you are supposed to be doing for as long as you are supposed to be there and the report will not affect you.

“Sounds to me like there aren’t and justifications except “Stankey said so” and the company just wants you unhappy for the sake of being unhappy and less productive.”

Unhappy so we “voluntarily” resign & save them severance.

They're not tracking assigned time. They're tracking 'assigned office'. I guess the micromanagers up top are trying to crack down on the folks are are required to be in one location, but check in at another. There are now two columns. One shows that you were in office and the other shows if you were in the office you're required to be in. A good manager should be aware of the slackers on their teams and the power house players. The amount of time and money they invest in this is amazing. If only that much effort was spent on making sure our customers have reliable service.. If they took this much interest in that, cell service would have been working just fine on Tuesday eve. Oh the possibilities

Sounds to me like there aren’t and justifications except “Stankey said so” and the company just wants you unhappy for the sake of being unhappy and less productive.
Got it.

“Go to your designated work location. Put in a professional work day. Go home. No drama.”

You mean talk to literally no one waste hours of my day commuting and just sit on teams calls and code with headphones on?

Sure.

Go to your designated work location. Put in a professional work day. Go home. No drama.

“Jesus, why are people spending so much time trying to figure out and/or game the system. Just go in to the damn office at least 3 days a week or 5 if that's your group's directive; it's really not that hard.”

Said by someone who has never had to commute to the Dallas office and find somewhere to park.

You’re out 2+ hours in your day right there.

People also don’t want to live in cities anymore, especially not to just make Stankey happy.

If you have to take toll roads to commute to Dallas you’re also looking at hundreds in additional expense each month.

It isn’t trivial.

People know WFH works and is more efficient, we refuse to go back to the way things were for no reason except “Stankey wants a nice report”

Jesus, why are people spending so much time trying to figure out and/or game the system. Just go in to the damn office at least 3 days a week or 5 if that's your group's directive; it's really not that hard.

“Work your 8 hours and then leave your computer connected to the LAN in the office when you are done for the day. Everything else can wait until tomorrow.”

So what you’re saying then is RTO has disincentivized people who work late, are available most of the day for emergencies, bug fixes, etc, and encouraged people to do the bare minimum to meet arbitrary requirements set by management?

Basically you’re saying RTO destroys high performers who go the extra mile for their work?
Oh wow we agree.

Glad someone finally said it.

“They track your presence via swipes, connecting to the LAN or WiFi. They are not tracking actual time spent on the LAN or wifi. Anyone telling you they do is incorrect”

This.
Time tracking via the ‘pings’ is very inaccurate and doesn’t work if someone is connected via WiFi and not LAN…
There’s been a lot of fear mongering from directors to try and push office attendance.

The only people who have gotten in trouble for this are people who were tracked manually by their boss (did I see you in the office today) and people who were badging each other in and just being outwardly egregious with it.

No one has gotten in trouble for “not getting 8 hours last Wednesday”

Work your 8 hours and then leave your computer connected to the LAN in the office when you are done for the day. Everything else can wait until tomorrow.

Problem solved.

They track your presence via swipes, connecting to the LAN or WiFi. They are not tracking actual time spent on the LAN or wifi. Anyone telling you they do is incorrect