2024-01 through 2024-09 reductions in management by level:
1 4.2%
2 4.2%
3 8.6%
4 6.3%
5 2.2%
6 0.0%
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The numbers do not sound right..sorry
"Managers outnumber workers, but T needs actual workers instead of pencil pushers that automation can replace."
You guys really need a clue, when talking about management employees it does not mean people who manage people. Almost every non-bargained employee is called a manager, regardless of what they do, they might install routers in a data center, or manage firewalls or manage people. Saying we have to many managers in this context does not make sense... Based on your description, managers are actual workers and not pencil pushers.
Managers outnumber workers, but T needs actual workers instead of pencil pushers that automation can replace.
Not by too much... AT&T's sustainability reports indicate about 42% are covered by collective bargaining. That jibes with a report earlier this year that there are "more than 63,000" employees in unionized positions. That's 42% of total employees which is reported to be around 149.9k at the end of 2023. (So that math is mathing.)
If you look further, the number of US employees was just shy of 125k. SO...that 63k employees is very close to 50% if not greater since there has been a significant reduction in US based employees who are non-union/management since those numbers were reported at end of 2023.
(source: https://sustainability.att.com/priority-topics/human-capital-management)
So nice narrative, but not accurate.
% is only relevant if the counts are the same or similar. How many people in each of those groups? That pool gets smaller and smaller the higher you go. Let’s say there are 200 L4s at ATT - that would be 13 people rounding up at 6.3%. L3 probably 1000 of them - 86 got let go. L2 probably 100,000 (most are office worker/admin roles not managers) - 4200 let go, L1 - 40,000 - 1680 let go. Not sure of the counts by level, but that’s probably close based off our 142k employees number. I extrapolated L1’s based off union numbers.
Leaving only the cream of the crop!
There can be only ONE!
Level 6 at zero percent? This number is not true. There have been a lot of officers “retiring” I can think of a dozen or so, which is about 5% probably. Maybe more. Including Welday. Of course they will get golden parachute.
Interesting - L3 reduction % twice that if L2 and 50% higher for L4 than L2. This would be a real departure from the past when L1/L2 took almost all the pain. The percent reductions all over just 8 months.
The numbers are higher than I would have guessed. I wonder if theses results are from filtering the HC database or from some other source?
I would be interested in the actual reduction values behind the percentages for L3 and L4 to get a sense of how valid the data is. What do other folks think - are these numbers valid? Any comments from L3/L4?
They need to also cut back on outside consultants. The company is still too too heavy. Products need to be streamlined!! The company is still recovering from the DTV/TW disaster.
The company has the money to meet the new contract, however, millions are spent of private jets, perks and Stankey’s lavish offsite meetings! The company easily spends more the $20 million on just c-suite perks!!
Stanley said automation will replace the union
Managers outnumber workers, but T needs actual workers instead of pencil pushers that automation can replace.
Oh well, you can't make everyone happy. I'm still here.