Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

“TDD in the way they want it applied now is very dogmatic.”

Correct. The Warden and his TDD sidekick would do much better creating busy work for teams working on simplistic microservices as an example. Burdening us with TDD on a complex transformation project using Agile is akin to lighting a bag of sh-t on fire and ding do-g ditching our doorbell. WTF? This after firing everyone and trying to increase morale with a bag of donuts and ice cream socials. Sign me up. Right away sir.

“Legg/Ward area tried TDD years ago, ended in disaster (severe budget overrun) they still are doing this in pockets of programs under Legg; TDD should have more code coverage for accuracy, but they just crash/burn with contractors milking them and very little good yield”

You should always write tests for your code and have good code coverage, that isn’t the same thought as TDD.

TDD is writing your tests first before you ever write a single line of production code.

TDD in the way they want it applied now is very dogmatic.
These are two different things.

Legg/Ward area tried TDD years ago, ended in disaster (severe budget overrun) they still are doing this in pockets of programs under Legg; TDD should have more code coverage for accuracy, but they just crash/burn with contractors milking them and very little good yield

“Ward is still around???? He is an old timer.”

Yes, they have some initiative now to basically dictate processes to teams and steer it toward a pure TDD style process with their flavor of half-assed agile.

If you’re a developer, and have any experience with implementing complex solutions quickly, you’ll already know why TDD if implemented “test first” is kinda d-mb and probably won’t work for most projects and add tons of additional overhead.
Requirements change quickly, your understanding of the use-case evolves, sometimes you don’t even know what functions/methods you’ll need to test until you really dig into the problem and start coding, etc etc etc…
TDD works if you have a ton of additional talent sitting there and mapping each the entire architecture of the solution before anyone even writes a single line of code, then sure…but I know of no one who develops that way and I haven’t on a single project in my 6+ years of experience.
The amount of “move slow, have 50 meetings, and get nothing done” this process will create is staggering, but that is kinda the way T likes to develop by and large…but wait they just fired everyone, and our PM’s/scrum masters aren’t technical so us developers are going to have to map out the solution before we even start to meet these silly requirements….

Go figure.

Wow even the new overseas guys have figured out this company is a cluster fu-k.
Took them less than 6 months, impressive.

Ward is still around???? He is an old timer.

T not only has spineless leadership, but they are TRULY clueless people to run sizable programs like T2R….not just costly, but will not really work; just like DTV….they didn’t cultivate it to make it good

“Amen, T2R should be canned! get rid of the useless Agile coaches that Ward paying handsomely, while most of us are asked to up root for Atlanta/Dallas….how *”

I don’t mind the Agile coaches if we ever decide to follow and execute projects using Agile. We have the tools and the basic structure to perform as if we were Agile, but it’s more like we are Actors on a TV show pretending to be Agile. We have the script and we speak the lingo but hot dog if we aren’t living in a itty bitty waterfall world. Leadership is d-mbfounded as to how a feature could possibly find its way into the backlog. That’s when you know to just gaze out a nearby window and think about you’re having for lunch.

Gee, I always seen powerpoints on the success of ticket to ride - saving the company 3 gazillion billion dollars and the users... well... they are just absolutely amazed!

Amen, T2R should be canned! get rid of the useless Agile coaches that Ward paying handsomely, while most of us are asked to up root for Atlanta/Dallas….how *

“T2R is a complete joke. I thought they had cut all the funding on that.”

Why would they cut all the funding? It would take someone with real leadership and ba--s to step up and do that. You think the sleepy warden or chicken leg man are going to do anything about a cash cow? They are too busy laying everyone off and making T great again. Reimagining T with a younger, more diverse workforce in good old Atlanta Georgia.

We sympathize with OP, we were on same call with AVP Heidi and her pathetic circus with clueless Dirs , who collectively ruined T2R, burned tons $$$$$ that W Chewning/Legg allow and don’t know what to do; SIMPLE….cut the loss!!!

T2R is a complete joke. I thought they had cut all the funding on that.

“Fascinating insight, I’m assuming English is OPs second language but it’s comforting to know all of AT&T leadership is clueless throughout the company.”

Was there ever any doubt? Today’s headlines confirm the bumbling chaos festering like a boil waiting to be lanced in this blue tiger striped marble. Even the logo reminds me of a boil waiting to ooze the pu-s that has become AT&T.

The poetic irony of AT&T is that they fancy themselves as a puppet master of organized chaos, breeding havoc to execute their diabolical plans on us unsuspecting employees. (out of state RTO mandates, exploiting openings to fulfill DEI goals, slashing benefits and vacation time, overloading us with work, tracking and reporting every mouse click, etc.) But somewhere along the way the company itself became stuck like a pig in mud, trapped in its own man made chaos. A shame.

Fascinating insight, I’m assuming English is OPs second language but it’s comforting to know all of AT&T leadership is clueless throughout the company.

I have meetings all day long and at the end of the day I wonder why I even came into work. Everyone in the office hears me talk and gives me the evil eye but what am I supposed to do, whisper? Most days I just leave at 1 and take the rest of the calls at home. RTO has ruined everyone and everything.

nothing new here. plenty of meetings here go in circles. thats why we’re laying people like you off.