Union leadership has failed to communicate progress or ask for membership feedback on proposals the company has offered. This has created trust issues for employees who are going a month without pay. Crossing the line is happening everywhere, especially tomorrow and Monday. Next action needs to be at the next union elections. A few people, whose feelings are hurt by the company, making decisions for 17,000 is not working.
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This is the first telecommunications company you've ever worked for, eh? Ignorance is bliss, isn't it Bubba?
Blah, blah, blah. Go troll somewhere else. We all know that the benefits and wages we have today are due to CWA and strikes in the past and yet the elite still manage to take the vast majority of profit. Look up CWA labor history and educate yourself and unions in general. All one has to look at is the difference between Core and UFO contracts. It was much worse for the Wire Techs before they voted for collective bargaining. Much lower wage levels, unlimited forced OT, would work straight fro a month or 2 at a time without 1 off day, severance was terrible, they wasn’t any job security, no grievance process, etc….
The Union isn't your friend. They're a bunch of fannies who you pay to do little or nothing every 4 years. Why do you think the agreements are drawn out? Why are the new contracts always agreed on 6+ months after the old one expires and then no arears are paid? It's all part of the plan and the Union knows it's going to happen every time.
Stankey is hardly , a leader, agreed. Stankey is your alpha and omega! Stankey is a low price leader. Stankey is the wisdom , the profit prophet, the wisdom and the one true way. Praise Stankey ! All hail Stankey!
“Hardly. It was a single breach that didn't even come from AT&T directly. It was a vendor who did financial credit checks on AT&T's behalf.”
You’re forgetting about the snowflake leak…we shouldn’t even be using external vendors for data that are externally accessible.
Union leadership has failed to communicate progress or ask for membership feedback on proposals the company has offered. This has created trust issues for employees who are going a month without pay.
Yikes. I would be very worried about that ULP.
We are willing to wait, when disbursed those monies will assist me in my further retirement. Either way we get paid, now or later.
Cute. :) I wish I was as optimistic as you were about the US government not being a corrupt pile of dung, where all legislation revolves around money being passed under the table.
Stankey is a data breach leader.
Hardly. It was a single breach that didn't even come from AT&T directly. It was a vendor who did financial credit checks on AT&T's behalf.
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Begging Pleading Cajoling
Whatever it Takes Stankey get those contracts signed Put on your big man 👨 pants.
Stankey is a data breach leader. And customers are happy with the class action. Just another in a long line of Stank accomplishments. Look at the soaring stock price. That's leadership.
“Data breach is a good look, and ATT is good at looking good”
Stick to the topic. No major company is immune from that….. Union folks, please consult with knowledgeable counsel… reading labor board and union lingo is not how you make decisions for the family. I’m not putting any opinions out here except I don’t think the union has been transparent… they over promised you and now are digging in deeper because if they come back with the companies best offer they feel like they lost. Instead of saying the company isn’t giving you good deals maybe you should consider the union leadership gave you false hopes
Data breach is a good look, and ATT is good at looking good. Stock prices at a all time high and we are crushing the competition.
Great CEO and harmonious employees, getting better everyday, in every way
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Permanent workers can not replace strikers in a ULP strike.}
At this point, it’s a ULP CHARGE. If the NRLB denies the charge, it’s not a ULP strike. Firing the mediator was not a good look. Not getting exactly what you want is not a failure to negotiate, it’s acting like a six year old.
Permanent workers can not replace strikers in a ULP strike.
The only thing to be concerned about is permanent replacements. It seems that is not likely to happen. So Stank cannot break the union. It is just a pump and dump scheme on the stock price.
https://corporate.findlaw.com/law-library/striker-replacements-the-law-the-myths-the-realities.html
“ This has created trust issues for employees who are going a month without pay.”
You made the decision to walk, deal with it .
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I side with the union but they have not been transparent.
I pray the West doesn’t follow suit and walk Without knowing why.
Don’t be a d-mb bunny West. Know what you’re fighting for.
Just talked to Louisiana friends, large number crossing Monday.
FYI, ULP doesn’t mean give us everything we want or else. lol Union leaders are bargaining for their egos not the members.
The IGNORANCE of the latest post below me! Heads up!!! It was stated that the government agreed this WAS a valid ULP strike which means the company will be REQUIRED to allow regular employees to RETURN if the union calls it off.
Wow! Look at all those capitalized words! It must be true! /s
Agree with original post 100%
Mostly what we get are "its historic!", "we're making history" "our bargaining team will be remember for ages" and other assorted platitudes.
It would be nice to hear "we're close on this issues x,y and z but apart on these others". Just something....anything...
Instead we are treated like children by the leadership.. "now go play in your room, mommy and daddy have grown up talk to do and you wouldn't understand it..."
They are doing more damage to this union than we are gaining by acting like everything needs a "super decoder ring" to figure out instead of just treating us like grown a-s men and women
Yeah, have those union leaders come flip a burger at the grill for us while we make $300 a week man.
Our union leadership su-ks, period.
I love watching the T~bags struggle and the wailing and infighting. From stem to stern, a ghost ship of poor service, substandard employees and mentally challenged leadership. Couldn't happen to a nicer corporation.
The Union is leading its children off the cliff, merrily tooting that 'bad faith' ho-n
Math is hard for some. We have squandered the first years raise by taking the last four weeks off. We are working on year two now. But hey at least we have years three to five to look forward to.
The IGNORANCE of the latest post below me! Heads up!!! It was stated that the government agreed this WAS a valid ULP strike which means the company will be REQUIRED to allow regular employees to RETURN if the union calls it off. They also have to pay back pay AND... anyone in their position that the company MAY HAVE hires, will have to MOVE out the way ans relinquish said job. Go to the NLRB website !
You would only get back pay from the date the union agrees to return to work, and the company either refuses or delays. You would not get back pay from being on strike.
I talked to Lugo. He's kind of a big deal. He told me it's about to end and we will get 30% over five years and free healthcare. He's in the know
“ CNN had a ULP judgement that took over a decade to be settled and pay out backpay after all the appeals, etc.”
Nice extreme case, if true. We are willing to wait, when disbursed those monies will assist me in my further retirement. Either way we get paid, now or later. 👍
“ You also have to win that unfair labor charge in court which may be a year before you hear anything.”
It is investigated and ruled on by the NLRB General Counsel then they decide the punitive damages or actions. It’s a low bar to meet ULP which has been met and documented multiple times. Pattern going back to the last strike in 2019 and now 2 districts are way past contract expiration dates due to similar tactics used during the current negotiations. The GC has already acknowledged the charges on 9/4 on the docket activity.
the government agreed this WAS a valid ULP strike which means the company will be REQUIRED to allow regular employees to RETURN if the union calls it off. They also have to pay back pay
The charges are still open; there has not been a hearing, and back only has to be paid if the charge is validated as a complaint and is part of the adjudication. It will take a while for that to all happen, so don't count on any of that any time soon. CNN had a ULP judgement that took over a decade to be settled and pay out backpay after all the appeals, etc.
The federal mediator was directly contacting CEO Stankey with updates. So much for neutrality, helps when you have all the information of why the mediation process was stopped.
“If a real union member then they must not be in the loop because we know exactly what is going on. Plenty of updates with Local, FB, and D3 site.”
The district office itself has repeatedly admitted in numerous publicly posted bargaining reports that they have only been releasing a minimal amount of info, and they only released some specific info after the company sent out their “final offer”. Social media is plastered with members voicing their disdain for the lack of communication from all levels of leadership. “Stay strong”, “trust the process”, “you’re making a difference”, and the lunch menu aren’t informative.
You also have to win that unfair labor charge in court which may be a year before you hear anything. Just cause the union calls it ULP doesn’t mean the national labor board and court system will agree. The union dismissing the federal mediator was not a good faith step for winning over the labor board.
I already received 2 texts from the company and one especially was direct dealing, at the end it said, “urge CWA to let you vote on it, meaning the company “final offer”.
So “ CWA” is our union collective bargaining team and “you” is speaking directly to me. It was direct dealing, an attempt to influence individual employees before they heard the whole TA offered from the union.
More labor notes;
“ One way to position a walkout as a ULP strike is to place demands to correct NLRA violations at the top of the union’s bargaining list. For example, if an employer refuses a request for benefit records, the union can demand that the information be provided.
Other conduct that can trigger a ULP strike includes:
a. Disciplining employees for wearing union buttons or shirts
b. Videotaping union rallies
c. Bypassing the union to deal directly with employees
d. Refusing to bargain at reasonable times and locations
e. Implementing a disputed proposal before bargaining to a good-faith impasse”
The sooner the union is gone, the sooner we become Charter~Spectrum lite!
And with Stankey's business skills and winning record it's a home run for sure!
From labor notes;
“ Another way to protect strikers is to attempt to position a walkout as an unfair labor practice (ULP) strike. As recently emphasized in a tweet by Jennifer Abruzzo, the new NLRB General Counsel, “The NLRB’s permanent replacement doctrine allows an employer to permanently replace workers striking for ‘economic’ reasons under limited circumstances. But don’t get confused—an employer can never permanently replace workers striking to protest an unfair labor practice.”
An employer that precipitates a ULP strike must immediately reinstate strikers if the union submits an unconditional offer to return to work—even if this can only be accomplished by terminating the permanently hired replacements. If the employer delays or refuses, the NLRB can order it to rehire the strikers and reimburse them for back wages from the time reinstatement should have taken place.
A walkout is labeled a ULP strike if a union hits the bricks, or stays out, to protest an employer violation of the National Labor Relations Act. The NLRA violation (see examples below) need not be flagrant. Nor must it be the sole or even the most important cause of the strike. If illegal employer conduct is one of the reasons employees stop work, the walkout qualifies as a ULP strike.”
Poster who thinks they are getting back pay for hours not worked may want to consult with a labor attorney. Why would anyone cross the line if they were going to get back pay? Think about that. Why would the company not settle right away if they have to pay back pay and replacement workers?…. No work, no back pay
If you are a member, have some cheese with that whine. Go ahead and cross in front of all your peers and quit posting your grievances here. Majority of us want the company to bargain in good faith with our representatives. We know once they do that healthcare, inflationary increases and work rule improvements will follow.
A month or two of striking will be worth the long term compensation contract for the future of all. Capitulating to regressive proposals and shouldering more of the expenses for benefits isn’t sustainable for employees current standard of living. The company needs to come to a fair contract that reflects the unions contribution to the annual $16 billion of FCF. How quickly they forgot the frontline employees service during the pandemic to keep the company and customers afloat. Management was able to shelter and quarantine while the union risked their lives.
You’re silly if you think you qualify for back pay for hours you didn’t work. Sounds like you fell for some union tricks.
Union is helping the company learn how to do similar work for much less. What stinks is that effects everyone’s job but especially the folks with low seniority.