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Denise Prudhomme - Questions for her teammates

Hello, teammates. I work for Wells Fargo from early 2020 to late 2022. I have questions about Denise Prudhomme, because as we middle or back office WF employees know, we provide customer service to the internal customer, so we're highly social and a seriously networked group of people. I didn't know Denise, but I knew Tempe employees and I want some answers. Why? Because, my dears, our network has always supported each other when times are hard.

  1. What are the results of the police investigation into her death?

(I'd like to donate to a foundation that supports other people who suffer from, say, heart issues, if that's what took Denise away so unexpectedly.)

  1. What team was Denise part of?

(I don't know Denise, but I might know her teammates... dude, I keep in touch with many ex-WF people, some on a near-daily basis. I don't stop being a colleague when I move on, I keep in touch.)

  1. Why do they keep saying Denise was forgotten for 4 days?

(She was forgotten for 5 days. Five, let's count'em: Badge in Friday at 7 am, right? Day 1, 7-3:30 Friday. Day 2, 7-3:30 Saturday. Day 3, 7-3:30 Sunday. Day 4, 7-3:30 Monday. Day 5, 7-3:30 Tuesday. Found, around 4ish pm Tuesday, right? Just want to set the record straight, it bothers me that d-mb details like badging in vs. clocking in are misreported, sure... but not getting the duration Denise was left there right seems like, I dunno, an insulting playing down of what actually occurred...even if it isn't, it brings back bad vibes of being gaslighted at work.)

  1. How was the announcement handled internally?

(Externally, WF said, yep, she died, and all questions can be directed to the police not us, because we don't know anything. True, the police probably do know more about Denise than WF at this point, but you would think WF would know what team she was on, who her manager was, and where we should direct donations, flowers, letters, whatever. I asked Bing Copilot these questions, and it couldn't find anything online.)

  1. How do I square Denise Prudhomme's workplace story with the weird "join our alumni network... we've changed! We're a people company all the sudden" letter that arrived in my mailbox and LinkedIn feeds shortly before Denise died?

(It seemed to me that the wording of the alumni letter was designed to alert some alums--maybe the sales alums?--that they'd be welcomed back if they would apply for jobs right now--my team wasn't in sales... we were told AI and citizens of India would replace us and do a better job, and my teammates were all laid off by the end of 2023--I assume their jolly alum letter got to me by mistake.)

  1. How many people saw her and didn't want to get involved?

(Person who found her: this is ridiculous, why am I the only one who is calling for help??? Cleaning staff: maybe she's drunk, don't want to get her in trouble... In person employees: maybe she's dead, don't want them to focus on me, let someone else find her, I don't want to get in trouble... Security and facilities: Let's see how long it takes these id--ts to call us, let them get in trouble for this, not us... Manager and teammates: Where is that email/call/text chat/document/report??? Is she OK? Don't want to get her in trouble... I mean, fear of punishment is how bank executives think they get results, so it has to be something along those lines.)

As you can tell, I don't feel good about Denise Prudhomme being both elevated AND brushed off in national media like this. I'm a 54 yr old woman who worked for WF--that could have been me, easily, if I happened to live alone (I don't--and my roommate would definitely have sounded the alarm a lot faster than 5 days later). I want answers that will erase the bad impressions I clearly have. Not having answers, I find that my former colleagues share my anger and frustration that even now, after we all have jobs elsewhere, WF makes us unhappy about the time we spent there. Of course there were good things about our WF jobs--we obviously feel strongly about our value and worth, and respect the value and worth of each other and WF tried to diminish that, enforcing poorly applied 6-sigma rules, ineffective expectations, and impossible standards. We weren't prisoners. We rage-retired or joined the Great Resignation. But we're scarred by being undervalued during the stress of lockdown, and seeing WF refuse to acknowledge Denise Prudhomme by job title, team, and accomplishments really reinforces that feeling.

If you've read this, and you still want to indignantly defend WF and call me a hater, let me point out: being angry and frustrated is not the same as hate. And it is OK to show others that they are OK in their feelings. One last story for you, if you think I am dreaming up concerns about a stranger I know nothing about.

Around the end of 2021, a colleague in my department died of covid, leaving behind a wife who wasn't employed at the time. She was caring for their two young kids. She was left with grief, medical bills, and no income. She asked my colleague's manager if they would be willing to circulate her gofundme page with the announcement of his passing to all of us at work. Well, at the same time, word came down from above that sending an announcement of his death would run counter to internal messaging about RTO, which had taken on a darker and more threatening tone at that time. On the same day I got an enterprise-wide email about returning to the office (even if you were working remotely for years before lockdown, as my own manager had been) our managers were contacting us individually about our colleague, as a workaround. That's right, they were all good people who were getting the word out for support as his widow had requested, while trying not to get in trouble for talking about a real thing--a person dying of covid--a virus that could have ki-led us too if we had been infected by working with him in an office. And yeah, he was a stranger to me--our department was huge, I didn't know everyone--but of course I donated. I mean really, we do support each other, we make our own community. We are part of the WF community whether we want to be or not. I am feeling hurt about Denise, and I want to help--I'll find a way on my own, but I would rather have answers because this community matters and we are more isolated from each other without answers. Thank you.

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Post ID: @OP+1uv6BIG4

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https://www.reddit.com/r/WellsFargoUnited/comments/1fd19r6/wells_fargo_workers_speak_out_about_coworkers/?rdt=63204

This union statement says that Denise was a Business Execution Consultant in Corporate Banking. I hope that helps you network to someone who knew her, so you can send flowers or make a donation. When teammates die, I think it’s nice to do something to support the community. Maybe you could donate in her memory to the foodbank that serves Tempe, AZ? Anyway: peace to you. And peace to Denise.

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Post ID: @Cixr+1uv6BIG4

lol of course it's the crank obsessed with DEI and Dr Brent. Anything to stay angry.

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Post ID: @2ayu+1uv6BIG4

@1jiq+1uv6BIG4 before the JP Morgan Chase leadership invasion, in my tech group we had the concept of "best friend at work". It was a network to share ideas, rant about things out of our control at work, update each other with changes in our area, and just lift each other up. I greatly miss the former WF culture. In the past we also had a person identified as our back up, someone to step in seamlessly when we took PTO, or had meeting conflicts, etc.
Having someone die in the workplace is traumatic. With no communication and no "wellness" councelors in place to address mental trauma it shows the true nature of the current WF Leadership. Time is wasted on DEI and Dr. Brent after this collossal failure in mental health.

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Post ID: @2fcb+1uv6BIG4

From what I read from a source who looked up Denise's mother's obituary, Denise's family lived in another state (Louisiana)...let's pretend at 60 years old she was divorced and had grown children. That common scenario explains why no family was desperately looking for her. Since most grown adult's friends do not call every week, they were not searching for her. The only WTF part of the equation is why security or janitorial staff did not find her. And - yes - many of us are still pi---d at what happened, as life goes on.

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Post ID: @2yew+1uv6BIG4

@1ati+1uv6BIG4

And maybe she got safe and effective.

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Post ID: @2ifi+1uv6BIG4

"I didn’t see any internal announcement."
There was an email to those whose building is the Tempe one. My understanding is it just said she died and we have xyz resources available if you need them. Nothing else. The rest of us got nothing.

To OP: I can appreciate your concern, but I don't see how this is helping anyone but your internal psyche.

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Post ID: @2ola+1uv6BIG4

OP,
Go away. Stop this nonsense. What happened happened. Sorry for her circle of peeps for their loss. But get off it, creep.

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Post ID: @1uoz+1uv6BIG4

I didn’t see any internal announcement. Aside, I don’t know security protocol and if they walk up and down every single aisle/desk. I can see myself sitting in a back corner in Chandler and no one noticing me. I find it sadder that she didn’t have any family or friends that noticed she was missing and prompted a quicker search.

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Post ID: @1wtc+1uv6BIG4

Denise was like all of us over 50: She probably hadn't been feeling well for a few months, avoided going to the doctor again (her doctors have probably been dismissive of her symptoms for years anyway); Maybe she woke up that morning feeling sick, but decided to go in and "thought it through". Maybe she started having chest pains and instead of calling for help.... she decided to sit in her desk hoping the pain would go away. Except this time it didn't. Security didn't make their rounds that weekend. Maybe she was sitting in a quiet area where very few people sit. I do find hard to believe that not one person noticed her lifeless body on that Monday though. It is all very sad for sure. 😞😞

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Post ID: @1ati+1uv6BIG4

I get it. This story has really got to some people. I have some teammates in the building who told me about this hours after she was found. Details were relayed to me that made it seem way less sinister than it's being reported. It's really unfortunate, but do you want a solution where they track every step we make in the offices?

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Post ID: @1jiq+1uv6BIG4

You're not entitled to know any details about her personal circumstances/cause of death just because you happened to work here once upon a time. Even the people who still work here aren't entitled to know. Have some respect for the departed.

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Post ID: @uya+1uv6BIG4

Get better hobbies

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