I know the job market is tough, but I'm starting to feel like it doesn't matter and I'd be happier unemployed than being part of this mess.
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Reading these posts I'm feeling my chest tighten, my head start to ache and the tears . . .
Nearly 50% of my team gone, people I partner with in ERNs stepping down, ignoring the loss of Denise, colleagues constantly not able to stay connected to meetings (VDI/Teams gremlins), more "zy" next to names bc their on medical leave, and the crazy EOY self review (knowing meets is all I'll earn). Just exhausted by the gas lightning
I'll get another job, or retire and be fine, but under no circumstances am I letting Shart off the hook. I'm getting my year of severance no matter what. That little POS in NY fired to many of my friends. He doesn't get what he wants, not this time.
I take the bus to work, a co- worker takes the same bus. She was telling me how the young new hires didn’t have work ethic and they would take long vacations, lunch breaks and quit after one year for another job. An older woman sitting behind us spoke up and said maybe these young people saw their grandparents and parents lose their jobs after many years of loyal service, never taking a lunch break, giving up vacation, missing family functions on the weekends so they can catch up. Why should they be loyal to corporations that don’t care about their most loyal, tenured employees? I thought about it, and it hit me. The younger generation is right. No need to stay with a company that sc--ws you over and doesn’t care. They will lay you off in a heartbeat no matter how important you think you are. Why not move on to greener pastures? These youngsters can get things done in six hours that takes me eight. They are entitled to lunch breaks and work life balance. Why do I think I am so special because I don’t take a lunch break or take vacation because of an important project? It is all about psychology and how we foster getting taken advantage of and are miserable. If you try, you can find something better. I have been actively looking for six months, while still working. I have faith that I will find the better job. Quit complaining and do something about it! I do know people who are working happily are appreciated AND have a life. Save money and look for the better job!
1: Realize this is a "psychologically unsafe" place to work. If you don't know what "psychologically safe" means I suggest you research this human resource management concept. The work of Edmondson is key. Her book "The Fearless Organization" highlights. As @pvf+1v1fsvs1 says once you acknowledge the toxicity then it rolls off of you. do a google search "psychological safety" "wells fargo" to add more substance to this acknowledgment.
- Quietly quit and/or actively look for a job at a fearless organization. Looking for a job is a cost. When evaluating a position gauge its psychological safety. Otherwise, after leaving you might get the same BS but at another place as @dhw+1v1fsvs1.
I am half retired now. Understanding organization development and product design is what separates a manager from a facilitator. This applies equally to being a manager/facilitator of your own career or others.
"be happier unemployed than being part of this mess"
Sure, if you can get by on severance and/or unemployment until whevener it is that the job market improves.
Start looking for a new job, while you have your job. That is what I did. I found a new job. It took about 4 months.
Stay in your toxic job to avoid dealing with the realities of your toxic marriage.
That's some solid career, and life, advice.
My husband quit his toxic job (not at WF). He is equally unhappy now, minus the income.... think twice before quitting.
Once you acknowledge the toxicity, that you are not your job or your employer, that it rolls of f you… you are liberated. At that point you can be part of the problem (toxicity back at ya) or just have selfless compassion.
Yes, even if I took over all the household chores and completed the honey do list, my wife would be angry that she still has to go to her toxic job every day while I am at home. Applying for jobs is a stressful full time job. She would have no sympathy.
If you’re financially able to quit and your family is on board for you to be unemployed for several months go for it, If you are single, quit and go live with your parents while finding your dream job. Be prepared for a pay cut at the new job and have a hybrid role. From my experience with jobs over the years is that it the same BS , different place. Even a layoff would cause stress that would be over and above any stress of working here. I manage to save , but I sure don’t want to lose my savings. I quit a job once and my wife didn’t speak to me for 2 months, and that was when the job market was good. Be prepared for sleeping on the couch if you have a spouse that will be angry that you are home all day applying for jobs while they are at work. The entire family had to go on my wife’s cr-ppy insurance and sure enough, the wife needed surgery. Need I say more.
without going into personal / identifiable details - its helpful to give more specifics - whats going on? i've seen some good advice on these boards and at the very least we can normalize your experience in this crazy place