Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

The Illegal/ Logistical items of 5 days a week and “Tracking” Employees

Specifically for management/Exempt/Salaried employees. Exciting things to bring up with leaders in town halls and emails

  1. Tracking by hours is illegal. If the company wants to do that then everyone needs to file a Department of Labor claim that we should all be non-exempt and paid hourly. Then they will have a class action for all the back wages owed for nights and weekends worked. And you are owed for every minute taking calls on COU.
  2. They cannot force you to work after hours if you got work done during their designated hours. Refuse to take your laptop and company phone home. Leave it sitting on a shared work station given you have no dedicated space.
  3. If #2 can’t happen then any calls taken to and from work and evenings and weekends should count as “ productive hours”. Stankey/stinkey reports only track badges and Wi-Fi LaN and you all are getting no credit for hours off WIFI/ Lan. Travel time according to the law counts as hours work if it involves the performance of work while traveling ( taking and making work calls).
  4. There can be no pay deduction for working in office less than 40 hours. Exempt employees cannot be tied to hours worked.

Feel free to crowd source and add to my running list.

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I see the paid actors are out in full force in these comments/votes!

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Post ID: @1ctn+1v8znsWU

Depends on the state. Generally speaking exempt management employees can be asked to work extra and not get paid OT or given comp days. However, that also applies in the other direction, ie slow days where your work is done or you have a dr appt etc and you leave a bit early. If you are told to track hours and then penalized for working less than 40; then by definition you are an hourly employee. That being said, plenty of lawsuits to the effect where folks are exempt, employer has them track, then they had to backpay the employee for all the extra hours. The exempt manager status is one of the most abused things in business. That being said, my day starts early and runs late most days including nights and weekends. If I’m online responding to stuff at 7am or earlier or working late, then it’s all part of my 40 whether I’m in the office, driving to the office or wfh that day. It’s all hours worked. If I worked 80+hrs and every weekend, then I leave early on a Friday because I’ve done everything I need to do, then yeah, the employer would be foolish to then penalize me for that. Thats a court case they would lose.

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Post ID: @1puu+1v8znsWU

Whether they are tracking hours or badge scans, aren’t we all doing the VBM? Very Bare Minimum?

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Post ID: @1chf+1v8znsWU

This is an interesting interpretation, but it's 95% incorrect. The only truth here is that exempt managers cannot have their pay deducted for working less than 40 hours a week, except under very specific circumstances. An employer is fully within their rights to ask you to work after hours, report every second of your day and what you worked on, and work in an office. Employment is considered "at will" and both you and your employer can terminate that relationship at any time without declaring why. You may feel hurt and angry by the way AT&T is treating you, but you're choosing to stay and put up with it. Go and actually read the FLSA, it's not designed to provide you with complete protections from a cr-ppy employer, it's quite the opposite. It's great that everyone has opinions, but unless you have passed the board and are an attorney, you're just making assumptions based on your own bias and giving some real poor legal advice.

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Post ID: @1ggt+1v8znsWU

good luck, exempt is 40/wk minimum expectation. if you work an emergency your manager can give you comp time.

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Post ID: @1ifk+1v8znsWU

So can they really track hours in office and tie it to performance?

I've been here more than 30 years and always been an exempt employee. There were several periods when we had to fill out 'time sheets.' We were also told at one point that our org considered the job to be about 45-50 hours a week.

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Post ID: @1nqo+1v8znsWU

The OP must be insane

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Post ID: @1ker+1v8znsWU

What are you trying to hide?

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Post ID: @1tuy+1v8znsWU

Where did you get the idea that exempt employees work time can't be monitored? Quick search tells me that there is nothing illegal at all about tracking work time for exempt employees.

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Post ID: @1iej+1v8znsWU

Don’t want to work then quit. Stop crying like a baby

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Post ID: @1twd+1v8znsWU

“Once I am done at 5, I am done at 5, if they are playing into hours on exempt employees.”
Bye.

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Post ID: @1der+1v8znsWU

Not sure why the downvote, exempt employees are NOT hourly. We recently worked 2 major hurricanes in the SE and we worked nights and days for weeks back to back and even weekends and even went to the disaster zone, that is why we are exempt because that is our job description. We are also oncall several times a year and we answer calls at 2am, 3am for emergencies. This is how T thanked us. So if another hurricane hit again, they can call someone to work nights and weekends. Once I am done at 5, I am done at 5, if they are playing into hours on exempt employees.

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Post ID: @1rfa+1v8znsWU
“Why is this getting downvoted? Isn’t it true that exempt employees are not hourly paid? So can they really track hours in office and tie it to performance? We are needed to work whenever company requires it. That is why we are required to work after hours in emergency situations ( outages, natural disasters, etc)”

Because the paid actors are out in force, this is what they’ve been waiting for.
These id--ts believe RTO increases stock price and probably have some sh---y job, so they like seeing people they envy unhappy and mad.

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Post ID: @1eib+1v8znsWU

GTfOH!

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Post ID: @1dtf+1v8znsWU

Why is this getting downvoted? Isn’t it true that exempt employees are not hourly paid? So can they really track hours in office and tie it to performance? We are needed to work whenever company requires it. That is why we are required to work after hours in emergency situations ( outages, natural disasters, etc)

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Post ID: @1tgm+1v8znsWU

Dude listed out things that sir PJ’s doesn’t GAF.

They’ll use hours on LAN for discipline and adherence. And they can.

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Post ID: @1mxx+1v8znsWU

You are clearly in a different station of life. Adios!

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Post ID: @1kko+1v8znsWU

Add this to your running list. You're a freaking id--t, OP

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Post ID: @1wvg+1v8znsWU

They can however force you to turn over your badge, keys and laptop and immediately exit the property.

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Post ID: @zmy+1v8znsWU

People who get this sticky aren't putting in 40 hours.

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