Thread regarding Bank of New York Mellon Corp. layoffs

Managers 4 day office exceptions

On the FAQ for the 4-day office for managers, it said generally managers could not approve exceptions for people, but the guidance would come out closer to January.

Does anyone have any knowledge on this?

My team/department is really short staffed so was wondering if may have a good chance of avoiding it.

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Meanwhile…several major departments are top heavy with MDs and other “leaders” who WFH. It’s all theatre.

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1cgi+1vDMlgLz
HR is about as useful as a screen door on a submarine. As for management 101, that got RIF’d by Robin and his band of merry meat heads.

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Post ID: @1zuu+1vDMlgLz

I don't have an access to this FAQ - what does it mean "generally". So no exceptions for everyone?

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Post ID: @1iuy+1vDMlgLz

You should be speaking with HR about your concerns , not seeking advice about corporate policies on a layoff board. Management 101, anyone?

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Post ID: @1cgi+1vDMlgLz

1ovy+1vDMlgLz,
Pretty much the size of it as you correctly point out. I would go on to add that the P-M is already a failure. The P-M is preferred to be newer, woke, cost location specific people who are not interested in right as much as they want to check the box. These conditions have doomed that scheme to failure. They will have preferred treatment, but not for long. Maybe it wont matter much as a bigger end game is in the works for merging or parting this place out.

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Post ID: @1anc+1vDMlgLz

The "goal" is simple. Make it a difficult place to work so that one would leave thus saving the firm a bundle in RIF process. Even if saves a dime it is a saving - that is the attitude.

The risk is the talent will walk away. But that is the risk they are willing to take and has calibrated it. The "talent" they consider are important have already been identified and are being taken care of in the P-M with leadership and associated perks. If you are not one of them then the verdict is clear

The extra fat has to be trimmed. Layoff is one way - expensive and legal requirements are a pain based on country & state regulations. Where as if they make life difficult like forcing RTO (all 5 days which I think is not far away) then the "lazy" may walk away. If they still stay back then comes the next trick - PIP. This is the firms Ozempic

After COVID it was the job-seekers market now it is the employers market

That is the harsh truth

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Post ID: @1ovy+1vDMlgLz

Being short staffed has zero to do with RV’s demand that everyone be in the office in what will become 4 days a week. RV and his hemor-roids all tell fairy tales about how collaboration, personal growth and communication are all short staffed unless we are all in the septic tank together. We know it’s all lies but….Orders are orders. So, get up early, take a shower, put on some decent clothes, pack a lunch, put on a fake smile and get your rear end into the office 4 times a week. If you dont like it? Then, start your job search.

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Post ID: @ldl+1vDMlgLz

Forcing people into the offices leads to people finding either better paying jobs or more flexible options resulting in increased workloads for those remaining.

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Post ID: @hvy+1vDMlgLz

Your team is short staffed and therefore should not have to come into the office? Make that make sense for the smart people in the room. Jeez this place really does employ the "geniuses".....

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