Kicking off my career at AT&T looked good on paper, but the reality was different. I don't mind hard work, but the job came with grueling hours, low pay, and a tough, stress-filled atmosphere. I realized pretty quickly it wasn’t the right fit and started job hunting again. Two months out, I feel zero regret about walking away.
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"Empirical evidence indicates it was a mistake to offer non-professional employees the latitude to work from home beyond the end of the Covid health crisis."
That's impressive. All you have to do is use big words and mention empirical evidence and you can make any BS sound true. Amaaaaazing!
"2 month's later and your focus is still on att. Guess you really never did leave, nor ever will."
It's the Hotel California. You can check out anytime you want but you can never leave.
"The empirical evidence and studies show that there is no benefit to RTO UNLESS the purpose is to reduce head count."
Empirical evidence indicates it was a mistake to offer non-professional employees the latitude to work from home beyond the end of the Covid health crisis.
"it’s just an obvious layoff tactic."
Always has been and always will be. The empirical evidence and studies show that there is no benefit to RTO UNLESS the purpose is to reduce head count. In fact, the studies show that RTO has a negative affect on corporate culture.
"Next explain why you can't get a more fuel efficient vehicle. Even just a cheap commuter 2nd car."
Damn dude -- go ahead and say your an elitist without saying "you are an elitist". I just had to buy a car for my son who turned driving age. Any reasonable used car that you would feel comfortable putting 2000 miles on a month is going to cost at least $15K to drive off the lot -- that is before gas, insurance, etc. You probably should fire your butler and your driver and live in the real world a little bit.
somebody said: “ I’m always so baffled by people who come back to these boards after being gone. This doesn’t affect you. If you’re happy, act like it. This is your past now.”
Reply: we’re seeking confirmation and receive bountifully every visit.
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"A one hour drive won't cost you an extra $10k per year. Half that."
IRS mileage reimbursement rate is currently 67 cents per mile. This is based on an average cost to operate a personal vehicle.
50 miles each way - $67/day
5 days a week = $335/wk
48 weeks (assumng 4 weeks of vac, including holidays) = $16,080/yr
If you think it's cheaper to drive a cr-p box, do you really think it will survive 500+ miles a week for long?
But hey, I'm a manager who can do math...
“Until someone can explain what they are trying to achieve by switching from 3 days to 5 days then it’s just an obvious layoff tactic.”
Seeing so many posters right here on this board say they planned to lie about moving and temporarily travel to designated work locations for just 3 days in the middle of the week helped lead to the decision to make RTO 5 days.
I’m always so baffled by people who come back to these boards after being gone. This doesn’t affect you. If you’re happy, act like it. This is your past now.
Do you also stalk past boyfriends/girlfriends to try and make yourself feel better, too? Bet you do. It’s not healthy.
2 month's later and your focus is still on att. Guess you really never did leave, nor ever will.
Most people don’t have a problem driving in the office when there’s a real reason for in person meetings and collaboration, but that’s maybe one day a month.
Most people’s problem is they spend all this time and money commuting to an office just to sit on teams calls when they can just do that from home.
There’s no in person meetings and no collaboration, and there never will be unless you get everyone in the world who works for T under one roof, which will never ever happen. Until then, everything will continue to be done online.
Until someone can explain what they are trying to achieve by switching from 3 days to 5 days then it’s just an obvious layoff tactic.
If you can’t afford to RTO then how do you afford to resign?
I can’t believe y’all have to drive to work. When you do though you’ll realize nearly everyone has already been doing this. You’ll notice the traffic in the morning and evening.
When they hired my boss who didn't know what Wireline products were, it was my time to exit.
We were a wireline sales force at that time; mobility was separate.
DEI ruined AT&T and the Stink is proof.
This is exactly why I’m leaving. This dmbas wants to try and tell me I’m lying about the cost I’ll incur by RTO-ing 5 days a week, then says the solution is to buy another commuter car, as if that is a cost saving solution, and not one that will more than double the personal expense. This company hired too many DEI m*rons and put them into positions of power. They can’t think their way out of a wet paper bag.
“Next explain why you can't get a more fuel efficient vehicle. Even just a cheap commuter 2nd car.”
This is rich, so your solution is to BUY A NEW CAR?
First, an EV doesn’t even have the range to take me to and from the office 5 days a in a row and there are no chargers at any office.
Second, you do realize the price of a new car is $40,000-90,000 right?
Third, a second cheap commuter car? Forgetting the extra tens of thousands you have to shell out just to acquire it, you now also need to pay extra insurance, and still have to pay for all the upkeep, gas, tolls, etc.
Tell me how this makes any sense. When did this company hire so many bozos
Fu-k your RTO. Don't do it and let them fu--ing fire everybody. The id--ts lay people off constantly and rehire them because they can't keep the business going. It's stupid.
Starters take off 2 months between vacation, personal days, sick days and holidays. Gas prob around $4k, probably less with Trump back. Next explain why you can't get a more fuel efficient vehicle. Even just a cheap commuter 2nd car. Oil changes probably $500 a year. Tires maybe $600. Brakes maybe not even needed.
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A one hour drive won't cost you an extra $10k per year. Half that.
1 hour commute is roughly 50 miles each way. Gas, brakes, tires, oil changes, depreciation of car racking up high miles. If he pays for parking add that too.
Time spent in traffic, gapers delays with all the illegals crashing their cars or getting pulled over with invalid license. Oh wait, incoming hero will fix the last bozos mess.
“A one hour drive won't cost you an extra $10k per year. Half that.”
Come tell me it isn’t. A one way trip is 40-50 miles, gas costs over 3.00 per gallon, tolls add up to nearly $10 each way. $80 oil change every couple months, new tires, brakes, etc.
So tell me again how it’s half that. Please. You and the leadership don’t think anything fully thru.
Between gas, tolls, and wear and tear a one hour drive is probably more than $10k a year.
A one hour drive won't cost you an extra $10k per year. Half that.
"the job came with grueling hours, low pay, and a tough, stress-filled atmosphere."
Fake post. OP said they do not mind hard work, but then complain about conditions that define the essence of hard work (unless you are doing extreme manual labor).
Same. Been here for the first 5 years of my career after college. Was always really excited, and my family was so proud thinking this was a great company to work for, but the last two years have been really eye opening.
Hard to know if it will be better elsewhere, but this place is so toxic, and employees are clearly grossly undervalued and not respected at all by leadership. 5 days RTO was the last straw for me.
Come January, they want me to commute to an office over an hour away (where none of my coworkers are located) when there’s a hub office 10 miles down the road from where I live. This will cost me an extra $10,000 a year just to show up to work, and not “collaborate” with anyone.
Thought I might get some flexibility since I’m younger and not compensated as well as others yet, but they basically said they don’t care. It feels like a personal attack. After taxes, nearly 20% of my take home pay will go towards commuting, plus 10% of my time everyday.
I can’t afford to move near the office, and certainly can’t have that figured out in just 5 weeks, so I’m just going to leave. It is what it is.
I'm glad to still be here. Good pay. Low hours. Boss is 4 states away.
"And that’s the problem with the union"
High wages?
And that’s the problem with the union
Low pay? I push paper in a union desk job and am pacing to make 130k this year.