The only hours the report tracks are in office hours ONLY. Nothing extra you do on VPN after hours is seen/captured.
The people who created this report falsely use this as a claim to say half the company is only working half days, but the reality is most people get most work done at home after the swipe in circus.
Leadership trusting this false data is what landed us at 5 days RTO instead of 3. Jay&Co has gotta go.
“It is not a mistake, it is not bad data. They want you to resign. Any other explanation is just your irrational coping mechanism for the realization that you work for sociopaths.”
I am wanting to know if said sociopath is the Jeremy guy? I have come to know soooooo many bad things from first day I and team laid eyeballs over said guy. He always can provide the fire notice to employee for all colors unless or until they agree to climb on slave ship to come to office in the Georgia. Soooooooo many people now in my office and microwave smells of chitlins and the peas with black eyes. Stop it! Stop it! Stop It! I see the Jeremy guy at once and I dont like the little man.
Many bad employees making bad connections due to bad decisions.
Bad leadership using bad data to make bad decisions.
It is not a mistake, it is not bad data. They want you to resign. Any other explanation is just your irrational coping mechanism for the realization that you work for sociopaths.
The Desktop reporting system RTO troubleshooter doesn’t work correctly. It never captures any connection on days I VPN externally whether I’m in the field or at home. So exactly how can leadership rely on his tool as some method to know your working? My role takes me into the field at least 2 days a week and those network connections aren’t being reflected. My coworkers are seeing the same issue
"All RTO requires is 8 hours in the office. Once again I will save you.
Go to the office for one single day. Connect to WiFi. Pull out your WiFi sniffer/spoofer you can purchase online. The product will grab the unique attributes for the in office WiFi and duplicate it."
Bad info here. The Desktop Reporting System's RTO troubleshooter will identify your source IP and classify your network type accordingly. Since you will still need to VPN in, you will have a non-AT&T IP you will get an external VPN IP and be listed as external-vpn in DRS. If you are in the office on LAN or wLAN, you will be on the internal corportate network and show up as internal-lan in DRS.
All RTO requires is 8 hours in the office. Once again I will save you.
Go to the office for one single day. Connect to WiFi. Pull out your WiFi sniffer/spoofer you can purchase online. The product will grab the unique attributes for the in office WiFi and duplicate it. Go home. The next day go into the office and do a badge swipe and go home. Launch the spoofer and connect to the spoofed WiFi. You will not be connected to the AT&T in office WiFi but guess what? The logs that get captured on your laptop and uploaded to the Wizard will look just the same, Problem solved.
“ Yep, I recently got dinged for this, so I started tracking my hours to the minute. They said I was only in office 1/2 the time I actually was and very little at home. Totally not true. I put in way more hours daily than required.”
Salaried employees now need to keep personal time sheets to protect themselves. Are we going to be changed to hourly next? We are be treated like hourly workers so seems like the next step.
RTO = d-mbfkery on steroids
Whine all you want, 8 hours in office is the requirement. A requirement, not an open solicitation for input.
“Quit crying and accept it. The Government and Corporate America have all decided COVID is over and no need to WFH.”
Well if the government and corp America say it then by golly it must make sense!
I can’t believe our Management employees are acting like children on going back to work. It reminds me of getting my child up in the morning to go to school. Come on professionals act like one.
Yes I’m very upset too. They told me I need to be in the office 8 hours per day. I’m only there about 4 hrs and it’s not counting as 8 hours.
“ I would go in the office for the first half of the day, and then go back home and get my heads down work done without any distractions for the next 6 hours.”
Unless a part time employee, this does5 meet RTO requirements.
Come on people, we have to go back to work five days a week. Quit crying and accept it. The Government and Corporate America have all decided COVID is over and no need to WFH. So we all have to put our big boys and girls pants on and get to work.
My role requires me to spend some time in the office and some at a customer site(s). Guess what? Unless I am in the office 8 full hours or more, none of my office time shows up.
But somehow it’s my fault for fulfilling our obligations to the clients.
These stupid reports only really work if everyone has cookie cutter jobs.
Yep, I recently got dinged for this, so I started tracking my hours to the minute. They said I was only in office 1/2 the time I actually was and very little at home. Totally not true. I put in way more hours daily than required. Even in the office my full 8 plus extra at home. I’m averaging close to 11hrs per day actually. Was told the at home hours don’t count. BS. I bet the department of labor sees that differently. If I was hourly I’d be getting paid for that.
IIRC some reports have also shown only the location of the last network ping of the day, so if you go to the office and then work from home later you show as working from home.
The report I see shows all network access, whether Internal-LAN or External-VPN. The reports have nothing to do with stricter RTO policies. It has everything to do with week leadership that bows down to evil puppet masters. This was going to happen regardless of any inaccurate reporting.
"Commuting time to and from the office does not count as working hours."
It does when my boss or my client calls me on my work cell to discuss business.
Perhaps they should do like some companies and force camera on all the time during work hours, your boss can keep track of you all day!
We. Know.
Why is there confusion about what the letter O in RTO stands for?
Commuting time to and from the office does not count as working hours.
“When this started my leadership instructed me to make sure I am present for in person meetings, but made it very clear there was no hourly requirement and said to just stick around for a few hours.”
This is not the intent of RTO. You received bad information.
I swear I was working a lot during the time you can't track us.
Absolutely true. I woke from home 2 days per week and this is not being captured on the reporting tool being used to monitor network access. The 2 days each week never indicates any access to the network externally via VPN. This is creating a false impression that employees are only working 2-3 days at all and as mentioned if someone spends 6 hours in the office and another 2-3 at home , the time as home in the same day isn’t being captured. It’s only now that level 2 managers are discovering this flaw/oversight in reporting as many never had access to the RTO reporting tool until very recently.
Productivity hasn’t yet seen the drop it will in 2025 because most people are still getting all their work done after hours or on WFH days.
Good luck in January LOL
This makes a lot of sense!
They accused me of only working 4 hours a day because I would go in the office for the first half of the day, and then go back home and get my heads down work done without any distractions for the next 6 hours.
When this started my leadership instructed me to make sure I am present for in person meetings, but made it very clear there was no hourly requirement and said to just stick around for a few hours.