While acknowledging and defending the creation of the Nanny State and Presence Reporting , he doesn’t address the issue. Management resents the blanket assumption that they haven’t been working 40 hours a week, and the subsequent monitoring of badge swipes, LAN time etc. It’s insulting and degrading and it’s no way to treat professionals. It’s leads to the toxic environment we find ourselves in.
Run your reports and deal with and get rid of the offenders. Don’t treat everyone the same way.
"Since when did management become a 40 hour a week job ,or less, for some?"
Since I set the expectations when I started working for the company. In 33 years, I have generally put in 40 hours a week as an exempt employee (aka manager, whatever). There have been exceptions, but they have been few and far between. My managers have always been happy with my work, my output, and work ethic. I have always gotten great reviews.
The key is set the expectation from the start. If you go in and want to "wow" your manager and start by working 60 and 70 hours, then that becomes the expectation, and will stay the expectation.
Work your 40 hours a week, do an exceptional job, and say "no" to working the extra until there is the rare and real emergency. That's when you give the extra. That's when you are seen as generous, loyal, and a hero for the company, and your contribution is appreciated.
If you are working 70 hours a week, do you really have extra to give for that emergency? Probably not. Then YOU are the one seen as a slacker, while I work 50 that week and my director or AVP loves me.
I don't like RTO, but I'll play the game, and I'll continue to work my 40 hours.
Retired in 2021. We were going downhill at that time but to see where T is now only 3 short years later is numbing and sobering at the same time.
Toxic doesn't begin to describe it. The lack of leadership is stunningly negligent from the board.
Just WTF.
I wish people who are unhappy about folks working remotely would find a job somewhere else. Very jealous that you have had to be babysat with a time clock and time cards?
I say we all ask to be stripped of their fake management category and demand that they institute time cards, Let’s punch a time card and show them stretched holes who they’re messing with. They should have no issue with that right? Give me my overtime you fat headed bald cyclops.
This is going to be interesting. Stank is basically implementing a 40 hour week which means a lot of people will actually reduce their work hours to meet that 40 hour mandate.
Don’t worry about it just show up for 8 hrs a day in office. That is what they require. If management thinks that some employees aren’t working 40hrs so what. Don’t take it personal they didn’t say everyone isn’t working they said some people which is not you so don’t get so upset. We’ve gotten so defensive it makes us look guilty of something.
Did someone who can’t spell a simple 5 letter word just attempt to criticize me?
It’s peers not piers!
You imbecile!
" I can not believe my fellow piers are acting like this. How did you ever become Management?"
Because we knew how to spell "peers". Dimwit.
I can not believe my fellow piers are acting like this. How did you ever become Management?
" Where do I get credit for off hour phone calls and troubleshooting that is completed without my connection to my computer?"
You dont do this any longer. your time is your time. work only in the office
Some workers need to be monitored for a reason.
how do they count the 15 or so mins it takes to find a seat, then boot laptop?
It a “partial” bluff.
They know they can’t measure every interaction. They know the data is flawed and contains errors. They know EVERY org has a different plan.
They want you to fear the great and powerful OZ.
It’s just an old man behind the curtain.
Make them prove the accuracy of the report. Deny, obfuscate and gaslight.
HR is unable to terminate people in a timely manner with just cause let alone a knowingly flawed presence report.
“ eight hours a day minimum.” was always the expectation in the past.
Since when did management become a 40 hour a week job ,or less, for some? Agree that because of RTO some very good people have left the company. Can barely spell AI but if it was my company I would refine the queries to see who is putting in 7.5 hours (counting breaks) and not coming close to meeting objectives.
I don’t like the assumption and narrative that if you didn’t put in 40 hours in the office you are somehow slacking. Nobody said you needed to be eight hours in the office, especially when you’re putting in additional hours at night and on weekends
So what exactly is the measurement they are using to prove our 40+ hours? Where do I get credit for off hour phone calls and troubleshooting that is completed without my connection to my computer? I ask sincerely for what they are measuring so that I can ensure I play the game according to the rules.
" The CEO said to RTO five days a week eight hours a day minimum. "
Hey sycophant. I didn't say I wouldn't.
Are you too dim to understand corporate culture and how it works? How a healthy one is built and nurtured? And how one is destroyed?
You know what? Nevermind. I KNOW you are too dim to understand.
Joy the RTO guy again. Get back in your truck and play on your phone union guy and let mom and dad fight.
You don’t get it. The CEO said to RTO five days a week eight hours a day minimum. Get to work. It is not brain surgery not to understand. Ge-z