Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

RTO 1/1/25 and 8 hours in office

Regarding this comment in other thread.
“ They have implemented new software to track connected hours, hours connected in the office vs hours connected outside the office, etc.”

Does anyone know what they are using to track this?

Is this what all the big companies are doing now?

I heard it’s not even whether you are connected - they will check to make sure your connection is 8 hours in the office AND that the computer is not idle (execs call it “keystrokes”).

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I cannot recall the app name, something like iDesktop. It is installed on many PCs and monitors what you do. You can pull reports that show some of the data collected for you, but not all that is collected. Search the insider page, you will find it. I am not saying that is what they are using for the data collected to justify RTO, but I can say it was and is still being used today.

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Post ID: @3kri+1vc1Pmlk

The number of office days is set by your occupancy indicator, which your job functions determine. Our VP told us just today we are staying at three days a week next year.

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Post ID: @2nth+1vc1Pmlk

Mandatory leaving your computer camera on line at all times so they can see you remotely.

There's no TP and towels either, so no reason to even be going to the bathroom.

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Post ID: @1zvr+1vc1Pmlk

I'm getting one of those old timey toy pendulum drinking birds and just have him tap the key every second.

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Post ID: @1dep+1vc1Pmlk

Why not just have a badge-in, badge-out system if they want to see how long someone is in the office?

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Post ID: @adf+1vc1Pmlk

Guess we will have to wait and see what and how they are tracking things. If connected to the 100 million in “opportunities, that was quoted we should start seeing the results. Don’t know how long that company has been doing this but you would assume they have some history with this type of data. Have read there are already some exceptions in place so there will probably be more as this is expanded to the rest of the company.

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Post ID: @zhf+1vc1Pmlk

It shows each application you were in and how long. Also measures keystrokes. Another app measures how many hours in office. Trust me, they did this to us in the IP Flex space.

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Post ID: @vfa+1vc1Pmlk

The company is ran by out of touch mo--ns who have no idea how work in actually completed and, for some reason, struggle to comprehend that if you’re on calls and in meetings you’re not actually making key strokes.

If you’re on 10 hour long calls a week, and actually pay attention vs multitasking, that’s a potential 10 hours the system would flag you for not making key strokes.

That’s got you down to 30 hours a week from the systems perspective already.

I’m not really surprised T’s sh---y way of measuring metrics made it look like no one was doing anything, I’m more than certain it was poorly implemented and poorly thought out from my experience in software development here almost all of our solutions are design by committee and the systems they have to tie into are such legacy trash that compromises are made left and right til you get a solution that “looks” like it’s doing what it’s supposed to be doing but really doesn’t deliver any value.

Take the awful network pings and how they track office LAN time that often misses pings and doesn’t report accurately for instance,

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Post ID: @ebj+1vc1Pmlk

regarding comment “Will be hilarious if they come out with some “tool” that flags people for not working in situations like that.”

This has already been done which is why the whole effort of RTO 5 days and 8 hours connected to corp LAN or WiFi. What tool is it, not sure.

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Post ID: @rjk+1vc1Pmlk

We have tons of meetings in conference rooms, not using laptops, actually collaborating like we thought we were supposed to do.

Will be hilarious if they come out with some “tool” that flags people for not working in situations like that.

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Post ID: @qbl+1vc1Pmlk

Make this make sense.

If I’m in the office, I’m suppose to collaborate. That means being away from my desk so I can be “elbow to elbow” with my peers (in conference rooms) which means I'm not “online” or “keystroking” for reports. Or why am in the office at all, right?

I guess this clearly proves that it was never about physical collaboration. Feel like they need to answer for this fallacy.

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Post ID: @wld+1vc1Pmlk

Rmoloyees will also have eyes on local coworkers

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Post ID: @nzy+1vc1Pmlk

So if I’m on a Team meeting, which is 90% of my day, and actively speaking, does that count as a keystroke?

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Post ID: @acr+1vc1Pmlk

keystrokes, mouse moves, mouse clicks, left-mouse hold, speech input in ms teams, internal engagement (various factors including yammer, sharepoint, fellow employee touch points, etc.)

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Post ID: @iac+1vc1Pmlk

This is correct information.

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