Thread regarding Education Management Corporation layoffs

I agree 100% with your job placement comment. They flat out lie and manipulate numbers that are reported out to the Department of Ed. I completed a degree while I was working for the company... in the database, it shows that EDMC placed me with the job I already had and they added a fake placement date to my record. I was sure to save records of all of this before I left. Hope to one day be able to use it in court as evidence against them. A large chunk of students are already employees, so as soon as they finish their degree, the career service folks go into the system and enter the standard HR values. The whole company is dishonest and it is a shame they are allowed to fill their pockets with student loans and federal grants. Shut the whole place down! Take the savings and pour them back into the Community College system. Expand campuses and course offerings so that everybody can get a legit education and not owe their lives back in loan debt. The admissions group target individuals who have very little understanding of math and finance. I have even heard Admissions Reps say to students, that since they are creative we don't expect you to be good at Math and English. Just want to push numbers in front of them that they know are not understood and pressure the kids into signing their lives away. Peace Out EDMC! Burn in hell you dishonest chicken hawks!

99957...the placement rates are always about a year behind because of the outcomes analysis...read the information correctly from the link provided and it will be correct..x many eligible, x found work in 6 months etc...I've worked those numbers and they are pretty appalling...so unless your school is showing 95% stats they are most likely correct. Go and understand the way they are measured first and then consider your statement. Again, just trying to keep the facts straight, I'm not an employee no a shill for the school, just hate to see random BS answers and questions pushed in this forum when some folks want the straight up truth. Fell free to ask me...I got the answers for you.

Ans CK still sucks and doesn't know shit about this situation.

The job placement rate for my campus either has old data or numbers are incorrect.

"Anonymous99851" AI is not reputable, that is exactly why you see what you see on the internet, very angry former students. Did some make it in spite of EDMC? Sure, but then so win the lottery too. I worked for a brief time at Ai and I can tell you that I saw things there that no other legitimate school would be doing. From putting up permanent artwork in the main lobby created by instructions to make it appeared like the students were ultra talented, to re-enrolling students with straight Fs in all classes for 3 terms in a row. The portfolios of students leaving the school are about as basic as what you see being submitted to real art schools just to get in. Ai is churning out diplomas and students with high school level art skills. So even if an employer had never heard of The Art Institute, they will pass just based on the armature level of training. You can not just take anyone off the street who qualifies for a loan and make then an artist just by "working hard" anymore then you can train everyone to be a mathematician or scientist. Raw talent and ability really do matter in different profession something AI would not admit to being true. They believed their own BS though. I even heard an AI Dean once say "oh we are not like those highfalutin art schools that turn away 2 our of 3 applicants, we can make anyone an artist." Uh, wrong, no you can't and all of those student you told that to can't get a job. The handful of student that did find real work, had that raw talent to begin with. As a former instructor I would say maybe 1 or 2 students per class was talented enough to be perusing a career in a creative field. This was not just my opinion, other instructors would say to me that the only reason they stayed was for that 1 or 2 which gave them hope that their time was not being wasted.

Where can I get the school and programs that are being "sun setted"?

Thank you to all that have been effected and know you did an awesome

job with EDMC and they are under the microscope of investigation.

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99840 one search, one hit: Graduate Statistics

The Career Services Department partners with students and graduates to seek appropriate employment during all stages of your education. To find out more about our employment statistics, including placement rates, average salaries, and types of jobs our graduates hold, download our graduate employment statistics brochure. Placement Rate data can also be found by visiting our Gainful Employment pages. When there, please make sure to have the right campus location and to select your program of choice.

Again you dumb ef...leave this forum and let the adults handle the questions.

Thanks 816... Posers starting trouble and stirring shit they no nothing about. Mandatory and compliant.

99816….. here one campus… they're all on the interview website and its mandatory for all admissions to show/read this verbatim… so I have no idea wtf you are talking about

http://www.artinstitutes.edu/CareerServices/Employers/career_stats/aicala.pdf

Question if the AI are reputable then why is there a constant flow of reviews from former students stating that companies won't hire them because the degree says Art Institute on it? From what I read I only see a few being successful while the rest have no luck at finding a job. Some insight from people who know about this would be great.

99816 Provide a link then because when I go look and see what the actual numbers are because when I go on the website they only show this description "This institution is not currently required to calculate a job placement rate for program completers."

EDMC is going to be fine long term. South's healthcare field is killing it right now and Argosy has never been more solid. AI is going to continue to shrink down into a smaller and more sustainable population of students, faculty, and staff. They are still one of the best recognized art schools in the country and have a reputable alumni. They're not going to shut the doors as long as they're doing the right thing.If anything, Brown Mackie is probably the weakest link.

No such notice exists. You are dead wrong. I'm just trying to sort fact from fiction.

The placement rates are demonstrated in the presentation. Nothing to hide, the rates can be found on any Ai website. They went green and stopped printing tons of duplicative forms. So, again, if you are questing you are wrong. There are plenty of us on this site that know the facts. You do not so sit down, shut up and let the adults respond.

At the Art Institute they don't. They used to back in 2011 and if I had to guess they stopped sometime in 2014. All there is an a notice that says they don't have to show them which is a load of garbage.

Actually job placement rates are available in the consumer information of the school. At least at Argosy it is.

99764 Are you saying that they don't count a job from minimum wage jobs as a part of the job placement rate. Also they don't even show the job placement rate on their website anymore.

You don't need to be an analyst to see the writing on the wall on how bad things have become and what type of course would they be able to take from here?

99744 If you really knew anything then you would know that minimum wage jobs have never been counted in employment stats. Get your facts straight.

Rumor is you're no analyst. With that said...if you work for EDMC....You should be cautious about the earnings report and your minority population. Higher minority equal more speculatory observers. CCI was negligent in their management. Edmc can use their road map to chart another course.