I would appreciate your perspective.
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Ha someone pretending to be me. You are reaching for straws to imitate my ass. I am not all that smart and definitely not good looking. You can do better than me. But the poster in 100% correct. I am not sure how a 20/10 can work with the rule of 7. The unions are going to loose money. But I will say this for the 5th time I believe if the unions shifted to 2/3 on the island 1/3 home 12 months ago this project would be finishing up as the guys would be less stressed in this horrible culture. Now the finger pointing is starting. Chevron pointing at CB&I and CB&I saying hold on now we don't run this you do! And the union gets pissed off more every minute that goes bye. We still have a ton of work to get done on train 3 and labor issues will be the nail in the coffin. No rumors of Chevron assisting??? All is quiet and we are waiting for a work stoppage vote???? I do here all these numbers thrown around of costs. Anyone who works on huge MCP's know that Gorgon is near the end of it's spend just like any other huge project.....in other words we bought the shit already! It is now time to execute and deliver...the huge spend is behind us now. But you all know Chevron can not deliver results. They never measure results that's why! They use a process or a meaningless metric as a result. Oh and the suicides of the 2,000 fly in fly out there has been 5 suicides which did spark and investigation by the state. Good luck my fellow Chevonites. You are not alone and you are not crazy we are this broke. You can't put shattered back together even with a case of crazy clue!
+1, that response was not from Sitting at Gorgon. Wrong demeanor.
I have a sneaky suspicion that the person with the handle; Sitting at Gorgon, was not the respondent (first poster) in this thread. I read his commentary throughout this board. That reply simply doesn't doesn't seem him, IMO. He also posts his handle with his comments. The reply lacked his handle. You don't fool me.
I wonder how cvx feels about wall st retail investors and the big guys having access to THE real-live employees and their concerns about real-live projects..... and the impacts to investment decisions on this company. This opens up a whole new dynamic of due-dilligence for the shrewd investor.
This brings color to the glossy quarterly reports we are all so used too :)
What kind of an idiot commits suicide over a job? Quit the job and go work somewhere else for cryin out loud. What are you people smoking? Maybe hiring Australian sheep farmers to a mans work was a mistake. Apologies to the sheep.
Curious as to what the average toilet bowl cleaner makes at gorgon? $160k US?
This will back fire on Chevron. Sitting at Gorgon will tell you that Chevron is truly looking at another 12-18 months on that project. Talk to Shell guys. This is the excuse they think they need to tell Wall Street. But it won't work. Wall Street sees this as much of a f*** up as anything else.
We can't drill a land well in Pennsylvania or Alberta. We have failed in every single metric. This is about as simple as simple gets. So I can only imagine what it is like over there. My heart goes out to you buddy. I can't imagine how ungodly bad it must be. It is reflected in schedule and budget but to actually live it you are a bigger man than me.
Dam thanks for the quick response. I will cut this out and put it in the break room. Not one person could coherently spell this out and God only know they all try. Thanks Sitting at Gorgon!
I feel important now. Having my 7:30 am coffe. It is 6:30 PM in Houston. Any way....20-10 roster doesn't work anyway. You have to work rosters around the multiples of 7 days for it to be work able not just pull days out your butt. The roster on Gorgon anyway is a 26-9 (35 day (5 weeks)at present. You want 10 days at home then the roster would need to be 18-10 (28 days (4 weeks) otherwise your flyout-flyin days would change meaning sometimes you would have to flying on a Saturday or Sunday because your finish and start days would continuously move. The workers really don't care about the money then Hourly rate/site allowance will stay the same. Meaning in a 70 day (10 weeks) period, you would be paid for 41 days instead of your current 52 days. If you know the hourly rate you can work out how much money the employee will be loosing. The unions accept this major cut. This has been talked about and asked for, for over a year. We have had a Government study of the high case of suicide and mental illness (Think of your screwed up Chevron management and times it by infinity and you have Gorgon) and the workers thought Chevron would do the right thing and go to a longer break if they conceded money. I know personally of 5 guys that committed suicide on this job. I never knew anyone before that committed suicide.