Thread regarding University of Phoenix layoffs

In no defense of UOP but University of Michigan is paying their head coach 48 million and that does not include bonuses. In what way does this benefit state universities academically in any way? Most universities participating in NCAA sports are paying their head coaches millions. Please enlighten me how this is not criticized?

Camden - Yet another biased post. Look at the demographics. UOP has been predominantly made up of caucasian's and the demographics also show that the majority of the student is female. Yet another example of how UOP reaches out to a demographic that traditional brick and mortar schools are not. I mean, isn't business about addressing a problem? In UOP's case, the problem is access to education for the working adult, stay at home mother/father, single parents and anyone else who favors self-paced and flexible schedules. If you look at businesses world-wide you'll realize that the corporate profits are amongst one of the top 3 priorities. Whether it be for-profit or not. Even our government is all about profits. They minimize operational cost, provide terrible service at almost every government entity you step foot into. For goodness sakes, have you ever stepped foot into a DMV's or court office?? Sit down and take a number my friend and welcome to business 101!

@466--GCU is "right-sized", and UOP will be too when they have 75K total students. This will happen by end of 2018. This will be good for taxpayers.

GCU is too small right now for the government to notice. 4 schools have already gone non-profit but operate the same as for-profit. The government put a stop to schools changing to non-profit until they find better ways of regulating business practices. GCU already has a lot of legal problems but the size of UOP over shadows GCU. Eventually we will see all the trouble GCU is really in.

All, on the payroll, check receiving, apologists for callousness and cynicism. Final denouement.

@Anonymous175769, Brian Mueller (another former UoPX executive) was able to make Grand Canyon University (GCU) appear more legitimate. He also wants to make it appear legitimate by becoming a non-profit. GCU created a nice RACKET with the prosperity theology folks who have some money and who are willing to fleece their most devoted fellow "Christians." University of Phoenix, on the other hand, went with defrauding African Americans and other people of color, military veterans, single mothers, etc.

GCU seems to be getting through this unscathed.

For profits are always going to bend the rules and suck profits to the top. There is not one single for-profit school that is worth a damn. Taxpayers are tired of you welfare queens taking billions and leaving students with massive debts and worthless credentials. Just like every conservative moron out there ignores this, they also ignored pointless wars, deficits, and job destruction and try to blame it on a guy who's only been in charge for a few years.

@705--I don't have a problem with DoE oversight/regulation on for-profit colleges as many (UOP for sure) derive more than 90% of their revenue from Title IV funds or VA benefits. As such, UOP may as well be a government entity, and it should be held accountable for its atrocious learning outcomes. UOP is a diploma mill--always has been, always will be...until forcibly closed by the Feds. The taxpayers are tired of this charade.

First message is correct. Government under this administration wants to control everything including state funded colleges so the liberal brainwashing goes on. For profit harder to control so some VERY liberal senators and this admin are out to destroy and destruct for profits and we are the biggest one.

@398. Since you and others of "your"school's ilk spent millions of dollars to have the college scorecard site suppressed, a reasonable person could assume that sub-par graduation rates were something "your" school preferred not to have to deal with or at least inform students of. This lapse of informed consent, if you will, could be considered false inducement for anyone who would consider attending a UOP school such as the one in South Florida with a graduation rate of 17% under any circumstances, whether a 1st time student or a 9th time student. And frankly, your argument about not advocating for UOP doesn't hold water either.

There is no argument on my part that UOP is in REALLY in bad shape. I wanted to share some facts about what for profit really means. Some for-profit schools are legitimate schools while others are not. It has nothing to do with the school being for-profit. It has to do with their practices. It's interesting how people just insult others when the facts are not in their favor.

Last poster--you are an uneducated simpleton shill, likely an investor, someone who struggled academically as a Phoenix student. UOP is going D

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Thank you! You just proved my point. People are very uneducated. The graduating rates reported to college scorecard are for first time enrolled students. This is indicated on the college scorecard website. And 40% is actually something to brag about since it's significantly over the national average. I'm not advocating for UOP in any way. Just read the facts for what they are. All the information I posted earlier is public knowledge, not information from biased sources.

175468 - Nice to hear as a card caring conservative, you like to spend government money. You also probably complain about welfare programs. Look yourself in the mirror.

@034--you are a shill and a tool for a sham school. You must be a f***ing dim bulb. Wake up, dipshit. UOP's halcyon days are long gone.

@034. That you professor for the dissertation but your stats are incorrect. I would like to commend you on your excellent attempt at subterfuge though. Many web sites can obfuscate reality any way they want . The grad rate as reported by "your"schools to the education department are plainly seen on "college scorecard" and they reflect rates far below 40%. By the way svengali, who said 40% was anything to brag about. Keep collecting the pay check while you can. I detest people who try to sound reasonable, like you, when their shit runneth over.

I don't think a lot of people understand the difference between non-profit and for-profit organizations. I think generalizing that all for-profit schools are bad is a very uneducated statement. This is not specifically referring to UOP; I'm referring to all for-profit institutions. Non-profit organizations are required to spend all their funds at the end of the fiscal year while for-profit doesn't have to spend their funds. Many non-profit organizations receive government funding and do not have to pay taxes while many for-profit organizations not get government funding and have to pay millions of dollars in taxes. The government funding I am referring to us funding given to schools by the Arizona State Government General Fund Expenditures for Education. If you look at the actual graduation rate of UOP students it is above the national average. Many website report graduation rates for first time college students; this does not include students who have attended college before (which is are the majority of students at UOP). the graduation rate for all the the bachelors students at UOP is over 40%. In 2014 UOP paid $121.3 million in taxes. This is money that is put back into the economy....how much did ASU pay?

I'm not saying UOP is not doing anything wrong...I don't know what they are doing. People need to understand the differences between for-profit and non-profit institutions and not assume that all for-profit schools are bad. Understand the meaning of for-profit.

Its time to fund the damn schools based on results with zero cost to students. The rest of the world is kicking our ass.

@484--you are right on point--it's time that taxpayers demand their representatives to cut off all federal funds from ALL for-profit diploma mills for their abysmal outcomes.

@Anonymous175468, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and activist/MSNBC entertainer Al Sharpton are bought and paid for by University of Phoenix. Former Edward Kennedy operative and Obama flunky Jane Oates works for Apollo Group in DC. Who are you talking about?........................................... https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/apollo-group-sinking-ship-dahn-shaulis?trk=mp-author-card

Jesus Christ. They are after UOP because it receives more federal funding than any other school and produces worse results than any other school. It's not a vast left-wing conspiracy.

1000% agree. People fail to realize that just because you are "nonprofit" you don't make money. They are just forced to spend the free money they receive each fiscal year!

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