But that is no cause for cheer for the laidoff oil industry employees with this dismal state of affairs still lingering in oil industry. If Hillary is going to get elected, which is looking more and more like a certainty these days what with Trump squandering his chances day after day, she is going to make things much worse for this industry. Remember she wants to finish the job Obama started, and finish she will.
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@9bvq, pictures are worth thousand words, but VIDEOS are even more valuable. If you or anyone has anything to report as such to management, capture it and send it to them graphically.
If you doubt the integrity of management, then cc their superior as well.
@IJ9ZYCj-6nkd - Yes,... I agree. I grew, shall we say,.... a little leery of HES, during my assignment to one of several Chevron field sites. Indeed, these guys became the Rock Stars of the organization! They went here and there, demonstrating their skills, upholding the pride of the plant, lots of lavish cook-outs, lunches, etc.,... it was all good. But, for me, I noticed a few "blemishes", some "imperfections", and not because I WANTED to see the image of these heroes tarnished in any way,... these were things I could not HELP but to notice. See,... I used to sit in my car, out in the parking lot, at lunch, and listen to Rush Limbaugh. I'd guess that lot had several hundred vehicles in it, and it was pretty "tight", not much room for error. The posted speed limit was 10mph, as I recall, and every day,... EVERY day, I'd see some clown in red FRC's (one of our local heroes) come blitzing through the parking lot in their one-ton at DOUBLE the speed limit. Not being fond of hypocrisy, I brought up the matter of my observations in the next safety meeting (the Plant Manager was present). To say that my remarks were met with disdain, would be an understatement. To my knowledge, nothing was ever said, to the offending "heroes", speed limits were not altered, no one was counseled, and the incidents (which I continued to observe) went on, unabated. I think that says volumes about Chevron's "culture of safety".
@IJ9ZYCj-8gpt I'm not a golfer, but since you can't be rehired as a CVX employee under T&Cs of the 2016 ESP, you might get tired of the links by then....well maybe not.
Let's enjoy our no longer being CVX emps and watching the Gen-X and Millennials learn by taking the "bull by the horns". No doubt that one may get a response from a troll, so taking the thunder out of it in reference to a "steers and queers" comment...LOL.
I'm on the Links with no intention of returning. I am no longer a piece of butthurt deadwood. I am living the dream in 2016. You guys lock up..... LOL!
Chevron was staffing up for the "great crew change". Problem is with the dip there has been little mentoring. I suspect the problem will not be a long hiring freeze, but rather when things rebound all the experienced folks will be on the links with no interest in returning....and all the mistakes of the past will have to be repeated before the new crew learns what they are doing.
@7txe, Good observation on what future consequences a hiring freeze would bring us. I think many O&G companies over hired during the bountiful years, never considering this industry is cyclical. Once we level off the lows and start to see better times ahead, we need to start replacing old blood for new and continue with a plan of balancing natural attrition with a 5% pruning of the workforce every 2 years.
This may end up like the eighties when oil companies went through job cuts followed by no hiring for quite some time. Another age gap situation taking shape. Yes the sad part is the rest of the economy is apparently doing so well, but the oil sector is shrinking steadily.
Dead horse stability. Easier to predict and manage future movements. Also saves on fed, reducing expenses, and thus improving cash flow.
Stability in every organization is achieved when increasing amounts of time are expended on reporting it's diminishing count of actual accomplishments.
Forced quotas for BBS participation is a sign that the system has failed. Most cards are made up anyway but management uses the findings to implement more rules and procedures. We are wasting time fixing problems that don't exist.
Another gripe is that no one is allowed to dare challenge the overreaching influence of HES. So many times when an incident occurs a new system is put in place to eliminate future occurrences. Often times if the existing system had been followed to begin with nothing would have happened. Instead of holding people accountable now we have two worthless systems in place.
A double blind look back study after the paper cut remediation celebration indicated there had in fact been just as many paper cut as before the danger was recognized, it was just that the paper cut incident review process had become so onerous that everyone had stopped reporting them when they occurred.
Yes. Tabulated 25000 near miss paper cuts and only one gas leak issue that might blow up rig. Concluded that paper cuts were clearly the recognized critical issue. Formed a paper cut awareness commitee, asked everyone to stand down to give input as to their feelings about paper cuts, hired a new staff of paper handling specialists to be floor oversight reviewers, and initiated an all staff paper danger awareness training program. The rig explored, obviously, which was very sad, but we are delighted to celebrate 1 million man hours of work without a paper cut.
Unfortunately Chevron HES has been focusing on minutia things like this instead of the important safety issues. They have created way too many BS low value processes that the real workers are forced to implement. This has caused poor morale and loss of productivity with no improvements in safety to speak of.
Dear @5agr, I can empathize with you on having to do all those silly BBS office observations. I protested in my own manner by being a rebel. I dared to walk around the office without a lid top on my cup of opting hot coffee.
.."5qdb" mentioned " CVX safety... wasting so much time on trivial thing" and "5akw" wrote ".. should focus on heavy hitter".... this really hit the nail on the head.
I am an administrative assistant, It used to be that I was to report at least 4 safety observations per months (recent year cut down to two). I sit in my cubicle all day long and all I can think of is ergonomic and paper cut. Times after times our office group only focus on "dont walk around with an open paper cup of coffee". We know it is stupid for the corporate culture to repeat this so many times in a year.
After BP's Macondo incident, Chevron put a much greater focus on process safety. That's good in theory, but the Company's technical capabilities have declined to the point that it's not clear that people really understand what is going on in increasingly complex facilities such as Escravos GTL or TCO. Do agree that CVX was WAY too focused on personal safety to the point it was pissing me off, wasting so much time on trivial things.
Actually look backs on the Horizon disaster suggeste they where focused on all those little safety issues (RSI, hard hat complicate, etc), they just took a short cut on a very big safety check to save time/money. At Chevron we are the masters of small safety "moments", but it's an open question if our focus on the small issues really leads to protection against disasters. The alternative would be if you want to avoid big problems stay focused on the heavy hitters.
I'm not sure why everyone is freaking out about Hillary becoming president. She did a great job her first eight years as president; why wouldn't she do the same this time around?
If you don't like safety standards you can work for BP.
-5fir, Yes, agree for the most part and hope that you are right. However.... You guys are comparing CVX's performance & outlook to the top 3 or 5 players. XOM, Shell, BP, etc. Compared to the rest of the field, CVX is still among the top, particularly according to market analyses, which carries a lot of weight. In your eyes, you think that CVX s---s in many ways because you are in the inside looking out, and you can see first hand all of the dirty details of the lack of competence, inadequacies, etc, etc, But from outside the box, among your competitors as a whole, Chevron is still well respected. And believe it or not, a lot of it has to do with the things that they do that you hate regarding personnel assignments, "green energy", crazy safety & environmental requirements, etc.
I agree with -5gia. In many ways the oil industry is a victim of its own success. The rapid increase in production of shale oil and gas in the U.S. put a supply glut on the market, driving prices down. OPEC has been unable to agree on production quotas to keep prices high, in an effort to fund their domestic programs and drive U.S. shale producers out of business. It's supply and demand, market economics. The level of analysis by Chevron employees could be quite a bit more thoughtful into what caused the current situation and what will cause it to improve. Chevron's poor operations reliability record and sloppy project execution is certainly not the fault of the government.
The Feds have very marginal influence on the O&G industry. It is all about supply, demand, and technology. If you think the election will make any material difference to the short term job market your nuts.
Come on guys, stick to the topic. Try to put your biases aside. Do you think that another democrat in the white house will support the Oil and Gas industry? This this the person who said that Obama didn't do Enough! I agree with the OP. America as well as the industry is in deep dookie with another Clinton at the reigns.
Yes Indeed, -4req, one of your little parasite liberal weenie sheep just posted something. A cut and paste from some left-wing propaganda site of their masters, of course, never having an original thought of their own. They follow their masters like good little obedient sheep. And like all dependent entitled liberals they are always right. About absolutely EVERYTHING. They're right, and everyone else is wrong! And if you don't believe me, just ASK ONE!!! ROTFLMAO!
Should we now review the only enlightened post in this thread?
"It's been shown by various studies that using facts and logic in political arguments with people who have strongly held beliefs is simply ineffective, and in many cases causes them to harden their false beliefs (see https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-facts-dont-matter-to-trumps-supporters/2016/08/04/924ece4a-5a78-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html for an overview of why this is the case). So there's really no point. But it's too hard to resist making fun of them."
Yes, that's true, these posts are usually dominated by a bunch of millennial liberal dependent parasite weenies who think the world owes them a living and will Vote for Shillary regardless of how many lies she tells and how much blood she has on her hands. You know, the types who believe that things which require the work and/or funding of other people, should be natural born "rights". That pretty much negates the definition of a right, IMO.
Retired people post on these threads? A primarily layoffs forum? I doubt it seriously. Maybe about 2%. I'm fairly sure that they have much better things than posting with the miserable, anti-corporate and disgruntled workers on these threads. Maybe on the few retirement-related threads like pensions, etc. But except for those threads, which are very few, it's pretty much just us girls. I think some people are trying to justify their unpopular opinions, so they just say "oh you old fart with old dried up opinions, blah blah". Old farts ain't fartin' around here, buddy. They have much better things to do, I can assure you.
Ah. I am looking forward to retiring in a couple of years. Get a lawn chair and some beers, and spend my time yelling at that squirrels to get the h### of my lawn ;-).
-4bky-"I apologize to you only" .... Really no need for that! This thread lacked any sense of civility from the first post onward, Nor does it have any relevance to chevron layoffs ;-). Just a bunch of retired Trump Brickheads wack en their willows. LOL!
Yes, layoff victims, we really believe all of your stories about being at the "Houston Food bank" !!!. If you were there you were getting your supper - LOL! It's easy to be a compassionate person online, ain't it libs? Just sit in your basement and type from the PC that mommie paid for!!!
@IJ9ZYCj-4bky, I made the comment about insulting people with derogatory demographic/racist-type name-calling and they lost the game, he is a loser by definition. That's when it is evident that a debate is lost. I did not insult anyone or use any of those terms. If it was you, take your medicine. If not, I apologize to you only.
@IJ9ZYCj-4nql, "Don't want to run the risk of leaving your bubble" says the Politico, Huffpost, Time, NPR, Dem.Underground, MSLSD & CNN etc., brain-washed pathetic soul who searches for articles to confirm his already close-minded, set-in-stone, left-wing propaganda instilled dependent parasite beliefs which never stray from liberal fantasy!!!!! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha Ha HA Ha HA !!!!!!!! ROTFLMAO! You can't make this stuff up, I tell ya!!!
Now go ahead and list some and deny it as usual, yea,.... uhh yea - we will all believe that!!! LMAO!
@4fhu - Nothing but Breitbart and Drudge with a little of Fox News on the side for you I'm sure. Don't want to run the risk of leaving your bubble, the real word is so nuanced and confusing.
@4jqr, once you cited your source as Politico, that's all I needed to know to stop reading and start teading other posts.
"An old burned out butthurt laid-off piece of deadwood hippie who missed his food-stamp check" ... ok, fair enough, all acceptable, good and nice in causal conversation. "Redneck" ... what the he** how can you use such horrible insults! This must be Texas;-).
Interesting. I am down at the Houston Food Bank fairly often and chat with lots of folks that seem fairly liberal, although I will admit I never conducted a formal survey so I cannot say for sure.
Politico today: Former GOP EPA heads endorse Clinton: Trump ‘would set the world back decades’ Donald Trump would threaten the environmental legacy of presidents Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon and George H.W. Bush, according to two former Environmental Protection Agency chiefs from their administrations. “Republicans have a long history of support for the environment dating back to Theodore Roosevelt. Donald Trump threatens to destroy that legacy of respect for the environment and protection of public health,” William D. Ruckelshaus and William K. Reilly said in a statement endorsing Hillary Clinton’s campaign Tuesday. Care to make up the alternative reality version ... just trying to keep you entertained;-).
@IJ9ZYCj-4yde, I am not what someone would call a "redneck" by any stretch of the imagination, (my dark skin gives me away - LOL) but whenever I read a comment that is purely a random insult and the poster inserts some demographic term that is supposed to be derogatory about Blacks, Whites, Middle Eastern, Hispanic, Asian, etc., or maybe just poor people in general, whatever the group might be I know immediately that the poster has lost the argument. Whatever your argument is, I have no idea, you made no reference to any post. Resorting to name-calling is always just that. You have conceded. You lose.
@IJ9ZYCj-4idl, I am not saying I agree with all of your points or your extreme attitude, but I can confirm one thing. I volunteer frequently at a local food bank and I was curious about how many liberals vs conservatives were among the volunteers. I often read these threads and many comment on different sites where liberals claim to be so giving and promote volunteering and boast about that often online. I was just interested in seeing how many liberals I work with at the food bank, after all, the way they boast online anonymously, it should be 99% liberals, right? It really doesn't matter, I am a moderate, or at least I consider myself that and I will continue volunteering until I die, it's just what I do. It's a tough question to ask, I sort of beat around the bush, you know. Well, to my surprise, I have not identified ONE liberal democrat at all. Not one. And we have literally hundreds of volunteers including all of our locations Most are Catholic and or super-Christian types, unlike me. And a lot of pro-lifers , pro-giving, you know the types. But no liberals to be found. Yet they all claim to be so compassionate online. I think that the online liberals and millennial chat room room types are all about the talk. All talk and no do. That's just what we need. A new generation of talk the talk millennial liberals who know just how charitable that everyone ELSE should be, as they preach from the PC's that mommie paid for, or enabled them to have by paying their way for everything.