Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Some years ago there was a famous company (Sun) spending OPEX for a internal global event - Customer Engineering Conference (CEC). Was all about sharing best practices - from engineers for engineers - always having the Customer requirements in mind. Well, also Sun was a sinking ship, but CEC definitely with better ROI then GSX.

At our engineering GSX, we will also need add session on how engineers to better train sales people how to sell. They are not yet smart enough to explain new products- especially software. Systems engineering and the PSS need help too but first they need to stop play Pokemon and emailing us questions to save them. We no longer can scale. That is why cisco growth is like slithering snake.

Engineers can learn current way of sales people and better teach them the technical outcomes of our rich platforms to help make business outcomes come out for customers. We can train them better than GSX- again, better use of OPEX for the company. We are one Cisco and its up to engineer to make sales people better sellers so we can end LRs ASAP. I think the top managers in the c-sweet will like this action plan. If we do good job, we can get connect recognition and raise!

For such training, we need to set aside OPEX for engineers to take Caltrain to the j buildings where we will hold our in-depth training. We need to keep sales (and the marketing) away from our new remodeled building spaces! Because we now have free snack like turkey jerky and fruits, we do not want sales or marketing to know otherwise they squat in our conference rooms and eat all our food like locus instead of meeting with customers and taking orders.

We need to move fast!

The only problem with this is that it is a f---ing stupid idea. (No offense)

Sales does not 'give' engineering pay raises, awards, rewards or Stock (RSUs). Sales is in the business of enriching themselves. That's what sales is and probably why you are not in sales.

Sales people are typically money motivated, exploit their relationships for financial gain and have a very loose ethical framework. In other words, they are money hungry weasels.

Engineers are usually systems or technology focused, have a smaller group of good friends and have stronger ethical convictions. In other words, they are loner idealists.

Sales people use engineers to their purposes. Engineers are widgets that go in a spreadsheet.

If you want to make more money at Cisco, go into sales (leave your shoes and your ethics at the door)

hopefully you will be on the list, go to google and be humbled.

laughing ... brilliant :-)

You should ghost-write the blogs of our engineering "leaders".

This is why Cisco is failing dot dot dot

"convenient because it's by airport, has good Asian and Indian cuisine"

@IOAERwq, how about you shut the fcuk up? Let's do this!