Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

I am very grateful

Looking from the outside now back into Cisco many things amaze me. It's strange how comfortable and at the very same time how stressful that place was; as if high stress was a natural state. It's strange how it felt like home and how I treated it like home, and also how I clung to it when I should have left. I should have left it many years before the shanking.

The reason I never left sooner was because it was a prison. It was a prison for my mind. By it's very nature a prison for your mind is invisible, you don't know that your thinking is limited by your environment because you're not able to experience life outside of that environment. But life inside Cisco was very limiting. It was a "failure is not an option" view that enshrines perfection, turns minor issues into major worries, and distracts from true opportunities. And it was insidious - that view of life had crept into my view of the world and personal life. The shanking came on my 11th year at Cisco after a great deal of career success.

I say shanking because it fits that urban dictionary word perfectly: out of the blue I was being stabbed with makeshift instruments by those around me who I thought I could trust . One day it was "good job" and literally the very next it was "you're going to be let go". The explanations were there but like I said they were "makeshift", as in so and so said this about you. Sometimes providence comes from the most unusual circumstances, because when you are shanked at the Cisco prison you don't die there, they just show you the door and you leave for good. I didn't realize that Cisco was my mind prison until a couple months after being on "the outside" when I noticed the quantity and quality of my thinking improving.

Now much more time has passed and I can see clearly that I had kept myself in that prison. While the actual act of being shanked at Cisco is never something that can be remembered fondly, I am very grateful that I escaped that prison... even if I needed help to do it.

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You weren't shanked, you were hit with a $70B cluster bomb a third of a century in the making. That you couldn't figure out you lived in a war zone after over 15 years of bombing speaks more about you than the company.

As for "failure is not an option," congratulations! Your one month program shipped in year four and your customer only required two more years of customer testing and associated bug fix releases before they considered fielding it. Cisco would say it's a success because it ended up in the field but any sane person would know that first fielding in year six for a one month development effort is a catastrophic fail. That Cisco can maintain their earnings while still being this inefficient says the market is not competitive. So what happens when people are satisfied with 8K video on their watches?

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Post ID: @3vypv+IPSioEu

Nothing much seem to have changed at Cisco..

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Post ID: @3vote+IPSioEu

I completely agree with the above. I was with Cisco for 7 years, was at a grade 11 all those years and received strong, excelling reviews. With each layoff it was the same, senior managers kept secret what was going on and did a surprise attack on those they shanked. With the last lay off I was affected and my management team literally said I'm safe so that I would finish up my next fiscal year design work with my team (who were also let go).... for the newbie college student(s) they were bringing in to just turn key it. Its not the layoffs alone that make people think Cisco is low class, it is how they do it. Its lying through their teeth through the whole week of notifications, not being transparent and then the horrific way they throw you over the fence like garbage and send thousands to class to "help you get back into the workforce". Save the money for the little cheerleader you hire Cisco who says... "don't feel bad, you're on a call with 6,000 other people (who were shanked) who will be your support buddies". Are you kidding me? How degrading! Its criminal to take executives and their families and annually do this blindsided to thousands. Those let go are REAL people with people relying on them for food, shelter, college... etc. Doing this annually is ridiculous. The public and the stakeholders should hold Cisco senior management accountable for devastating so many people then turning around and posting thousands of jobs for often younger, less paid individuals. The Hunger Games mentality is dead on! If you are looking for a loyal company who is transparent and honest, Cisco is the exact opposite. Management wont even return phone calls once you've been shanked, even if you were a high achiever..... HR legal and upper management trains them very well on how to look the other way. Its horrible!!! We need to buy billboards in every major city saying "Work for Anyone But Cisco"

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Post ID: @ukb+IPSioEu

The original Post is accurate and very true. Left cisco- very happy to have escaped.

My suggestion : Leave with your sanity and whatever health you can preserve.

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Post ID: @hfv+IPSioEu

Beautifully written post, and so very accurate. The years go by. You're convinced you're doing good work for the right reasons. Slowly but surely, the dysfunction of the place becomes normalized, and as the original poster says, you find yourself in a prison of your own making. You escape 2, 3, 4, 5 LR cycles and feel grateful for it, but sooner or later, you feel the inevitable shank at your back, and you can't help but think: Why does a well-run company need to do this, over and over again? Why does Cisco turn into "The Hunger Games" every summer?

As they say in the movie, may the odds be ever in your favor, but in the aftermath - especially if you survive - I urge everyone to do some soul searching, and some career and financial planning. Do you enjoy your work? Does Cisco provide a work environment that helps you make your strongest contributions? What is Cisco doing to demonstrate that YOU have value? Plan accordingly.

Having escaped one too many shanks, I decided Cisco wasn't the right place for me anymore. Leaving on my own terms? * Priceless *

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Post ID: @pnm+IPSioEu

True. It is a shanking

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Post ID: @ees+IPSioEu

Boo hoo. Pass the tissues.

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