Thread regarding Education Management Corporation layoffs

I agree with 2yha. There was never any value placed on professionally credentialed instructors and as instructors were let go, a terrible problem got a whole lot worse. Gradually, the depth of faculty could not sustain the classes being taught and an institution of higher learning cannot be sustained by an army of adjuncts. It may look good on paper, but it just doesn't work in reality.

Again, I blame the administrators and especially those in the upper echelons. Notice that in most cases, they were the last to be let go. A great many of them are still there. They were only too anxious to cut faculty and curriculum to preserve their own worthless jobs.

Notice I'm speaking in past tense. With stock at a penny a share, I expect an announcement of closure very soon.

The staff is horrid. So many have B.S. degrees in nothing related to what they teach, nor do they have any experience or industry connection which AIC claimed. (Students caught on to this.)

After being called out by students, the staff and management would then "implement " a class and have a current teacher pretend to teach a new subject/ topic while trying to learn it at the same time they taught it .

Yes I worked there. Yes it happened very frequently. Yes it's one of the reasons I moved on.

In other words 2hzg doesn't have anything. Look, no one's blaming the faculty for EDMC's demise. Sure, there were bad apples but by and large, they did a good job. I blame the administrators from the top on down and at every level. Too many of them were not qualified. At my old school, If they were qualified, they were driven out. Many weren't even involved in the arts. Too many were in it only for themselves and the trouble is, corporate encouraged this sort of toxic culture. Lots of spineless Yes-Men.

So,through spineless neglect and brainless incompetence, middle and top level administrators ( I'm especially pointing at heads of departments, the president et al ) managed to take once thriving programs and burn them to the ground.

I've been reading entries on this site for quite a while and surmise that what was happening at my campus was happening all through the EDMC system. And yes, I too have faculty friends still working at EDMC. I'm sure one of them will be turning off the lights and locking the doors on the last day.

No I'm not a corporate shill. I haven't worked for EDMC for several years now. What annoys me though is the blame shifting these former students are engaging in. I got my second degree from an EDMC college and am now working successfully in that field, so no one can tell me the education doesn't work. I also had a career in non profit education prior to getting my job at EDMC and it's no panacea. There are major problems with education in general. At the time these stats were published 30K was the average starting salary for a college graduate. The second thing that bugs me about these former grads is they've come onto this site anonymously attacking people they don't know. I don't work there anymore, but these are my friends and former colleagues and who are, for the most part, good people. Are there problems with EDMC? Yes, major ones, but the solution doesn't lay in kicking people when they're down.

No, 30K is a terrible yearly wage and I'd very much like to see the stats you're pulling this info from. I'd like to see stats from an independent source, not EDMC. At this point, any stats EDMC produces are automatically suspect.

You can tell things are really bad. The EDMC corporate shills are making regular forays onto this site. I wonder how much silver they're being paid.

Anything you say about a graduate's job title is pure conjecture unless you have hard evidence to substantiate your claim. From what I can tell around 90% of the AI graduates were employed within 6 months of graduation with a starting salary of around 30K. This is bad? Are you aware of these statistics for graduates of not for profit colleges and universities who majored in art? I can guarantee you the majority aren't working in the arts and are unemployed or working in a field unrelated to art. These are also beginning career, straight out of college statistics. It would be interesting to find out where these grads are now. Ten years into my career I was making double what I made as a 22 year recent grad.

I aint' gonna be sein it. Whare it be. If I cud C the Liddle peker I'd a b rappin my lips all over dat and getting some EDMC luv jizm. Wat is dat.. 4 skin?

Good grammar and spelling are essential on resumes, little one. Go s--- a dick. You won't need to spell to do that.

@Iq3nlux, more evidence of massive fraud. But at this point, who do you tell?

Actually, email me and I'll tell you who to tell. We may be able to get something done.

Rather have bad grammar than be a complicit fraud who's still on mommy's tit.

Wow! Looks like the OP found the Wayback Machine! Color me impressed with your web talents. duh.

.....To advanced for you?

Too.

Are you an AI English teacher?

.....Love you sweetie!

MUAH!

Quote from -1eml

"How do you know the person working at Kinks wasn't doing graphic design, Home Depot wasn't doing kitchen design with customers and the person working at Macy's wasn't a fashion marketing and management grad? These are large corporations where there is opportunity for advanvement. The people working for these corporations are lucky because they are college graduates at the beginning of their careers and they're working. Kudos to them!"

The reason I know that they're not doing graphic design at Kinkos is because what corporate company would field 56 people at locations across the country to do graphic design at the corporate level. They're not going to do that, corporate companies don't hire designers at the store level. Only place I can think of that does is Trader Joes when they do their sign art (not corporate logos), and that job doesn't pay the big $$$ that the school advertises that the students would be making, nor does it justify having an expensive bachelors degree in design. They would at most hire 5-6 people at corporate, or more realistically outsource to a graphic design company. Those 56 individuals are working as store clerks. They might get to set up a display, maybe do some window art, but that doesn't equate to needing a Media Arts and Animation degree or a Graphic Design degree does it?

As for Home Depot and Macy's it would be the same, those 79 and 43 individuals aren't working at the corporate level or making enough to pay their loans, bills, or feed their families. As was said by the poster, stop justifying your bullshit with make believe fantasies of universal student successes.

How do you know the person working at Kinks wasn't doing graphic design, Home Depot wasn't doing kitchen design with customers and the person working at Macy's wasn't a fashion marketing and management grad? These are large corporations where there is opportunity for advanvement. The people working for these corporations are lucky because they are college graduates at the beginning of their careers and they're working. Kudos to them!

It's pretty obvious that the jobs AI was, and still is, "placing" students in were no where near industry related jobs. Kinkos, Home Depot, Macy's, yep industry related alright. Please read the article posted about Kamala Harris's investigation of Corinthian job placement statistics.

No, seriously. How are these links a demonstration of fraud?

A bunch of old career services reports proves what exactly? Where's your proof these numbers were fudged? Where's the sentence that says "if you graduate from AI you are guaranteed a job"?

The truth . 8% grad rate.

http://content.edmc.edu/assets/pdf/AI/Student-Consumer-Information/Graduation-Rates/graduation-rate-pittsburgh-online-division.pdf

Oh and one more thing, compare it to the Corinthian job placement findings from the California Attorney's General: http://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/department-education-and-attorney-general-kamala-harris-announce-findings-investigation-wyotech-and-everest-programs