Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Are things really as bad as you guys make it seem here?

I have been working at Global Foundries for 4 yrs now after my BS. I am satisfied with my current job. I have a standing offer from Intel with higher pay. The role is process engg tool/layer owner in Hillsboro. I am having second thoughts after reading comments here. Is this a small disgruntled bunch or is this a general picture of life at Intel? I appreciate your feedback.

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Post ID: @OP+ItGxV4n

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It is a stupid managers that you have to deal with. And it starts from the top, BK. No matter how good you are, you cannot get past that. Sure, more money, but you trade that with happiness.

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Post ID: @1iax+ItGxV4n

You're happy where you are.

So what do you value more- Money, or happiness?

Figure it out.

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Post ID: @1mwz+ItGxV4n

Sure, there are a LOT of disgruntled people here. I can't deny that. However, it's a rough place to work and even though a lot are disgruntled... what they are SAYING is true. I couldn't wait to get out for the past decade. I held on because I wanted to be eligible to retire so I could get the SERMA that was starting to build up. Once I became eligible I celebrated!!!! I then stuck around for a package but was about to leave without one I wanted out that badly.

There are some VERY arrogant people there. Some real dumb*sses too. To me, it's just too large of a company with a LOT of crap and stress to deal with on a daily basis. It pretty much goes 24/7 so you're expected to work long hours. At least I was hourly so I was paid for it but still. I was done with the stress. It's not good for your health so got out as soon as I could and couldn't be happier.

Trust me... the grass is NOT greener on the other side. it's filled with weeds, bugs and a LOT of dog sh*t.

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Post ID: @buw+ItGxV4n

I wouldn't consider Intel a long-term career track. Recently, beginning in 2015, then this year and sure to continue into 2017, longer-term employees especially if not minorities are targets for weeding out. They make too much and they may have hit the growth wall. Intel's annual Focal process assumes cutting 15% of staff ever year and they adjust the criteria as needed to achieve it. It gets even more stringent if, like now, they have to make above-average headcount reductions. Young people I have referred to Intel have declined jobs on the basis of the research they did on the brutal Focal system. It fosters dog-eat-dog competition among teammates rather than collaboration. The guy next to you, who you are supposed to work with and support, may end up causing you to be laid off if you don't get him first. In the technical fields, they like H1B visa people--cheaper, more compliant, less likely to complain. Subcontractors ('green badges') are also popular. These employees typically get paid half what "blue badges" (full-fledged Intel employees) get paid but are deeply embedded and do many critical functions. Last time I looked, at one major U.S. Intel site, the number of green badges was only slightly less than the number of blue badges. All this makes business sense, mind you.

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Post ID: @oqu+ItGxV4n

OP, understand that this forum, by its nature, will elicit the most comments from angry, upset and disappointed ex-employees (and a bunch of trolls who just want to agitate). It is true that Intel is not as golden as it used to be. But it used to be a very good company and I still think it doesn't hurt me to have it on my resume. I would advise that it is not necessarily anymore the brass ring for young people to reach for, especially if you are happy where you are. And if you are lured in, be aware of how quickly you get s---ed into very specific Intel niches and will lose your versatility and relevance outside of Intel. So maybe Intel is a good thing for RCGs (recent college graduates) or early-career people, and then move on. This is a significant change from when Intel was dominant and ruled the tech world job market; back then 'lifers' were the rule. Only recently has Intel even hired senior talent from outside the organization. Remember, they were pioneers and revolutionaries, so they had to 'grow their own' for a long time. I am sorry I had to leave Intel but it is not the same Intel.

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Post ID: @pnc+ItGxV4n

If you are a white male sooner or later you will have a target on your back because white males are not part of their inclusion agenda.

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Post ID: @jku+ItGxV4n

It's not as bad, it's worse. Especially for fab tool owners.

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Post ID: @kyq+ItGxV4n

I am not disgruntled yet. But during act they did layoff a bunch of key people for our projects so we have to work longer.

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Post ID: @hcj+ItGxV4n

A lot of ex-Intel employees work at GF. Ask them about the work that tool and layer owners do at Intel.

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Post ID: @qeu+ItGxV4n

Don't fall into Intel's trap.

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Post ID: @dlv+ItGxV4n

Intel is a 55 billion dollar a year corporation. They aren't going anywhere.

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Post ID: @bpm+ItGxV4n

No it is not. If you have less than 10 years of experience it does not really matter. If you have 15 years and above then you are on the expensive side and then things get nasty. No company for "old" men. Old us really an euphemism for "expensive".

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Post ID: @zgp+ItGxV4n

Sorry Trollie, but you wouldn't get a phone interview with a BS degree for a tool owner position.

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