Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

And, yet...

I agree with the mixed feelings: on the one hand, I've been miserable at Cisco for years. Trying to exert influence on the management team as an IC in that company is like boxing a fog-bank and a glacier at the same time. And, yet, with nearly as many years in the enterprise as this contributor, I feel in some way 'dumped' or rejected -- something like, "I can't believe I was ejected when X is still drawing a paycheck!!!" It's not the healthiest mindset, and I'm working to move beyond it. I expect I'm going to be a lot happier for having be 'dumped' than I would be had I survived this round of layoffs.

Having been at Lucent while it spiraled around the bowl before rushing unceremoniously into the sewer, what's going on at Cisco is familiar. Cisco has missed the turn to consumption-based and transactional modes of business (e.g. selling 'networking' as opposed to network equipment or other things with a serial number stamped on it). Cisco has failed absolutely to assert a meaningful presence as a cloud provider (forget leadership, just existing in the space in some notable way at all). Cisco shows no particular aptitude for quality software delivery (being "Agile according annualized deliverables with expected ROI by budget at completion" is the kind of self-defeating 'strategy' that the management team will adhere to even while the water rushes over the decks). It seems as though the challenges before Cisco's management team exceed the track record of capabilities demonstrated by the Cisco management team.

Despite self-promoted delusions of being a family, Cisco is any other corporation of its size: all workers are contingent workers, and no amount of work travel at holidays, weekends and nights spend resolving issues, or other personal sacrifices will make a different when the cycle of layoffs hit every four or five years. For those remaining, the message may be best summed up as "get while the getting is good."

The joke, of course, is that they are laying off the older workers with prejudice, when it's the older workers who still have a sense of 'belonging' to the company they work for. The new hires have seen there parents laid off once or twice already; when the arrive in the workforce, they're already looking to get out. Hence the 50% voluntary attrition of new hires within 2 years of their hire dates in some areas of the enterprise.

I wish I were a younger worker with that temporary attitude. I wouldn't feel so down about having been dumped.

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Yeah, been laid off twice by Cisco over many years there. In the earlier days Cisco was a blast...up to about 15 yrs ago...then it slowly evolved into a toxic clusterfk. The Mgmt team Dirs and above are completely overrun with political, low talent asses. These posts remind me of it all - if you actually have integrity, or worse if you're smarter than your bosses, don't show it, they'll stab you quickly. I do not miss Cisco at all and the only reason I went back the 2nd time was for a paycheck. So happy I'm not stuck there now - I know it's hard getting LRd but trust me, you'll all be much happier outside.

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Post ID: @hqe+J3eNwDA

They are the next Nortel.

Your spot on with your comments and for what it worth you'll get over the feeling of dumped and realize your now freed from insane work hours and miopic leadership despensing the cool aid like Jones town.

Family ya right.

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Post ID: @ptk+J3eNwDA

One small mistake in your post... "when the cycle of layoffs hit every four or five years. " Cisco has been in the habit of doing a annual layoff every August/September since 2008.

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Post ID: @bvv+J3eNwDA

offcourse. csco is 80% indian. Then post also has 80% chance to be from indian

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Post ID: @ctl+J3eNwDA

errr, market cap does not equal "money in the bank"

fail, must be either indian or millennial.

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Post ID: @ogt+J3eNwDA

Great post. Spot on. Cisco is 20 years past its prime.

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Post ID: @qax+J3eNwDA

Excellent post. Good work. Keep it up.

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Post ID: @tbi+J3eNwDA

60b in the bank, sorry - 160B marketcap

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Post ID: @imx+J3eNwDA

Good post, makes the site valuable - a ton of low quality posts too

$160B in the bank though

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Post ID: @olx+J3eNwDA

Best post I've seen on this site. Spot on for all points.

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Post ID: @dom+J3eNwDA

+1 - The slow decline is happening everywhere here. Just wonderinfg how long it will take. 5-10 years? Less? More?

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