I worked at Honeywell Phoenix for over 30 years, the last 20 of which was in Management. Honeywell can and should RIF almost the entire HR department instead of those that actually contribute to the bottom line numbers for the business. In recent years, it seems that Honeywell considers HR to be one of their Core Competencies instead of accomplishments in Aerospace.
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HR is a joke at Honeywell, and everyone knows it. I think even they know it.
Look up the definition of a bescumber, and then you'll have accurately described your 90% of HR
As a former HW supervisor, I can attest to the puppet syndrome of HR. Sure, there were a few good ones, they had their own minds, but they were quickly "looking for external opportunities"! That's the lingo. I would have been in the same boat because I wasn't a "yes man". Yes, I saw the writing on the walls, and I'm so happy that I did. Of course, it wasn't hard to see. HR Investigation after HR investigation, and still, I left on my own accord. One of the best days of my life, to be honest. I am now completely out of the industry, and I'm pretty happy about that. The company misses the boat on the RIF's/layoffs. The top brass is so overloaded, with layers of VP's upon layers of VP's, yet they stay strong. And that same brass will run the ordinary worker into the ground to ship product, at all costs, moving forward. Safety and quality was already in the toilet when I was leaving due to pressure from upper management, it will get worse. Be safe ladies and gentelmen, it's not a game. Upper management will push, and they will expect "the numbers", to be made.
Better yet, RIF counter-productive managers for a much improved bottom line!
HR =Honeywell representative
Low intellect supervision and management. Fits how the Torrance site is run very well
Whoa wait one moment - HSE isn't totally useless at least not a my location. HSE does a great job at my location in Kansas. They really care about the employees and are always helping employees develop safer work processes and ergonomic tools. Many HSE staff in other locations have a tendency to stay hold up in their offices and never get out on the floor or in the plant with the direct employees. Our HSE Staff are out on the floor all the time and when they are asked for help on anything they show up and take an active part in helping solve an issue.
The last two poster's did a great job at succinctly capturing what is now the essence of the HR department on today's Honeywell. Hopeless and dissolution within the ranks within the senior employees definitely is common (no matter which legacy company they started with). I choose to leave Honeywell Aero this past spring knowing the new Honeywell will never be the same of the Honeywell I knew prior to the spinoff of Alliant Techsystems. I came back to the era of Cote and all the crap that came with that megalomaniac made multi million are on the shoulders of all the great Honeywell and Allied Signals folks who he's soiled on since he became CEO. Incidentally HR these within Honeywell are referred to as Inhuman Resources.
HW has the worst HR group I've ever seen in my 30+ years of working, anywhere! I've never encountered an "HR" group that has nothing to do with the employees. They are truly an Anti-HR department. You're called "Human Resources", you jerks! You're supposed to be there for us!
I agree with the initial comment - I have nearly 20 years and my observation is that Honeywell views all internal ancillary business processes and services (including HR) as their core competency. The lack of product & customer focus is quite shocking to me and definitely contributes to withering product quality and loss or organic business over time.
In addition, in my view Honeywell is not the place where talented individual-contributor technical professionals can thrive - you will quickly become subsumed into a morass of internal busy work and daily micro-management created by layer upon layer of low-intellect supervision & program management. On the other hand, if your bent is business & politicking, you thrive on daily posing & chest-beating, and are comfortable obsequiously adhering to and implementing ridiculously contrived dogmatic business policy & practices - Honeywell may be the most rewarding and lucrative of career choices for you.
HW HR people are puppets. They do exactly as told to do by HW Management (which doesn't make them any better than the Managers). HR people don't have minds of their own. They are programmed to perform and do just as Managers tell them to do. Most good people with self worth won't stay in positions like that.........they move on to better places and/or positions. The ones that stay are the ones that stagnate there..................
add HS&E as well - totally useless