Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Moore moves to TSMC as 10nm ramp starting and it ain't even a fruity flavor

Looks like the LTD and TMG folks are on vacation. For as long as I can remember Intel was the proud leader at being first. Now all I hear are third generation on 14nm and talk about stretching out each node. WTF, getting to hard, physics in Taiwan and Korea much be easier or them engineers are more motivated and not encumbered by silly ranting managers.

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/processors/41685-mediatek-to-release-two-tsmc-10nm-chips

Tick Tock I hear the layoff clock!

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Post ID: @OP+JymcRSm

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@4vmp - I beg to differ:

https://www.semiwiki.com/forum/content/6160-2016-leading-edge-semiconductor-landscape.html

https://www.semiwiki.com/forum/f2/intel-7nm-due-2022-a-8327.html

TSMC 10nm is superior to Intel 14nm by several independent metrics.

More importantly, by the time Intel is ramping 10nm in 2018, TSMC will have moved to 7nm and taken the technology lead from there on.

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Post ID: @4jwe+JymcRSm

I don't take anyone seriously who says tsmc is close to 10nm. No serious person believes it. Tsmc 10nm is not even on parity with Intel 14nm. It's somewhere between 14 and 22nm.

It's marketing and if you believe otherwise you are a fool who is not.to be.taken seriously.

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Post ID: @4vmp+JymcRSm

Hey @JymcRSm-1erh please explain, LOL

Based on Intel's own cadence of two products per generation "tick tock" this is the first generation in many where LTD has failed to deliver the process on time, or we wouldn't have had Kaby as product delivered Canon but where is the product. Factories are ready to go, but no process.

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Post ID: @3gna+JymcRSm

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2016/09/27/intel-a-year-behind-tsm-in-foundry-capabilities-says-citi/

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Post ID: @3urw+JymcRSm

I work in ICF and am frankly embarrassed by our lack of execution and promises by our management. I feel sorry for our ICF customers.

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Post ID: @3frr+JymcRSm

It's not that it's too tough, it's that with intel's projected revenue they will not make the money back.

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Post ID: @3qle+JymcRSm

OP is obviously not in a position to know anything about Intel 10nm and 7nm past what they read in a TSMC press release.

But thats ok. Like your old AMD masters, Global Foundries isn't paying you to postulate about technology you cant possibly understand.

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Post ID: @1erh+JymcRSm

Intel 10nm is way behind TSMC, probably a year or more. 7nm and each successive node will just expose a larger gap btw foundries and Intel. To put things in perspective, TSMC would ramp 7nm in 2019, while Intel could be as late as 2021.

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Post ID: @1rma+JymcRSm

Where do they say that they can't do it?

Here it says that they are starting trial production.

http://wccftech.com/intel-starts-10nm-factory-cannonlake/

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Post ID: @1lmn+JymcRSm

Yes. The technology does not seem to be an issue with Taiwan or Korea, just for Sohail Ahmed snd Myra McDonnell. Doesn't Intel realize it's time to replace the old guard? Evidently the technology is too tough for them!

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Post ID: @myv+JymcRSm

Tick Tock, only a matter of time before the bomb explodes.

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