Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Why does all news come out on Thursday's?

Heard next year's calendars will be out this Thursday so we may finally see if all the rumors are true about less holidays and possibly unlimited vacation for next year.

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Because leadership has their off-site mtgs on Fridays. Translation: In Phx, this means the boys are out golfing. Bad news comes out late in the day on Thursday, and they get a long weekend to practice their bs excuses for Monday.

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Post ID: @Kjug+KBdxqe5

Less chance of an active shooter/suicide if the bad news is given at the end of the week.

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Post ID: @6cyl+KBdxqe5

The Leadership workweek is Tuesday to Thursday. Everyone else is as many hours as you can physically put in.

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Post ID: @1wlu+KBdxqe5

The no WFH policy came out on a Friday morning. Just in time to ruin everyone's weekend

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Post ID: @1tlr+KBdxqe5

Haha, gave my notice on a Tuesday...... did not want to rock the boat!

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Post ID: @gvb+KBdxqe5

Honeywell "ALWAYS" does their dirty business on Tuesdays or Thursdays!! Always remember this. After 17 years with the company it is always Tuesdays and Thursdays!! Do not know why, it just is. So if a thread says RIF's are this coming Monday........not gonna happen, maybe the next day "Tuesday"

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Post ID: @snk+KBdxqe5

Current policy is use or lose do they have no vacation going into 2017

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Post ID: @eou+KBdxqe5

What happens to the old timers who volunteered for the rif thinking it was this year. Then they make this change and push out the rif til 2017? Do they now not get their vacation time paid back? I believe that they cannot withdraw their self nomination. I would not be happy if I was in their shoes.

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Post ID: @lll+KBdxqe5

The new policy hurts old timers by reducing vacation days ( I know they don't say that) but they give you 7 days " sick leave" not PTO so I wonder if a doctor excuse will be needed. They don't say that but I've heard 3 to 4 weeks tops so better take all D--k leave,

You better have a great manager as well. As you pointed out, no more pay for time not used at separation do they save pay outs there too.

Raw deal for us long time employees

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Post ID: @cyz+KBdxqe5

Q "Can someone explain why unlimited vacation is a bad thing again? I know Ge tried it and it didnt go well but im not sure why this is bad."

A 1. Based on years of service some long time employees have earned 4, 5 or 6 weeks of vacation time. As someone who has earned 6 weeks of vacation time, I was always conscientious and scheduled vacation time around workloads. If Managers will still allow employees who have the past had 4 to 6 weeks vacation to still take that amount of time off that is great! Heck, even newer employees could now have more vacation days with the new policy. The problem would be if Managers are not implementing the policy fairly by granting vacation time for a favored employee but disallowing it for a less liked employee. Managers could also incorrectly perceive a "heavy workload" and deny vacation time - but that could occur to some extent in the past as well.

The fear is that Managers will be rated on how they allocate vacation time and their performance rating is dependent on approving a certain (low) range of vacation hours. So an employee's "unlimited " vacation under the new policy really isn't and, in fact, long term employees who had earned 5 or 6 weeks will no longer be approved for that.

  1. When an employee left, they would be paid for any unused vacation time. So an employee who had earned 3 to 6 weeks of vacation time based on years of service and hadn't used all of it could be paid for those unused days. New policy means someone leaving the company received no pay for unused vacation days.
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Post ID: @nth+KBdxqe5

Check the HR Direct site left side for policies then USA policies then USA standard policies. CA employees are different for sick time than the rest of us. Oh. And the sick time policy is new too.

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Post ID: @hac+KBdxqe5

Manager advanced notice just came out.

Moving to unlimited vacation

Going to 12 paid holidays per year

Paternity leave of two weeks now offered for new Dads

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Post ID: @ohh+KBdxqe5

@dju - because vacation is now discretionary based on your manager. If your manager doesn't like you but likes your co-worker, you may not be treated equally under this policy and there is nothing you can do about it. Also hard for anyone working on a major project as your vacation can be denied. Penalizes long term employees who had 4,5,6 weeks of vacation under the old policy.

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Post ID: @mob+KBdxqe5

Can someone explain why unlimited vacation is a bad thing again? I know Ge tried it and it didnt go well but im not sure why this is bad.

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Post ID: @dju+KBdxqe5

Could someone please explain what two holidays are removed for 2017, and if you could post the policy here that would be great. I cannot find policy 2090 at all. Aero div here.

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Post ID: @grv+KBdxqe5

Mandatory invite for Weds and Thursday about "paid time off changes" ....just got the email

not sure if this is only for HBT and SPS

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Post ID: @bks+KBdxqe5

What does the policy say, I can not access the dovumen

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Post ID: @vat+KBdxqe5

New vacation policy number 2090 is now up on the Sharepoint site. Effective Jan 1, 2017

Search " vacation 2090" in the search block on Honeywell home page.

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Post ID: @llm+KBdxqe5

Two less holidays at Aero starting next year. News on Thursday....bank on it.

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Post ID: @mgx+KBdxqe5

New Vacation policy is posted on HR Direct

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