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@KLlOch7-dqyd, Take your meds ASAP!
Why compare h1b's vs managers? Seems like nothing more than a divisive question to distract from real issues. Isn't it more appropriate to question the current structure of the h1b program? E.g. Does the program treat h1b's fairly (I am not sure it does) and on the flip side should companies laying people off be allowed to hire additional h1b's?
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China has a bright future the 7 yr old sweatshops are booming they will have so much experience by age 18!
A Congressional report has warned American lawmakers that if visa dispute between India and the U.S. moves to formal settlement phase, it could possibly result in a WTO-authorised trade retaliation against the U.S. This comes months after India dragged the U.S. to the World Trade Organisation (WTO) over imposing increased fees on H-1B and L-1 visas.
“If the dispute moves to the formal dispute settlement panel phase, one potential outcome could be a WTO determination that the disputed statutes are inconsistent with GATS obligations and a recommendation that the U.S. should modify its laws to comply with the GATS,” said the Congressional Research Service (CRS) report.
Are Chinese H1B?
I am a H1B1 and I am worried I was advised by someone in the know not to get into any long term debt and get rid of any long term debt as soon as possible. I trust this source.
Y'all H1Bs are in some serious doodoo
@KLlOch7-3lud: Read what I said again. We agree on some aspects but on others....you are on some kind of crazy tangent I really can't follow anymore. Again, let me go over the salient points:
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Trump is nuts
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Trump knows nothing about international trade or trade agreements. He knows about 'deals', that's it.
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Trump will do crazy stuff that will look like the beginnings of a trade war but will inevitably pull back if and when it hurts business, i.e. him or his friends
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Foreign governments (e.g. India, China, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, etc.) don't give two sh!ts about our H1B policies or if their citizens are taking advantage of this program. It is all about if they (specifically their respective 1%) can sell their goods into the USA super cheap
I am not a Trump fan at all. But I do have a pretty good fix on what drives him and his psychosis. You are reading into something that really is not there, from what little I can follow
anyone who thinks, India will "retaliate" if Trump makes local policies in His Country for His Business- is very naive.
India or other "third world countries" are no in a position to bargain. USA is still a leader and many many countries are dependent on the Hand-outs given out by USA ( including India), wrt cooperation in nuclear and science ( intelligence-info exchange) and defence-weaponary advancement; not to mention political implications of losing out USA-support in the South-east_asian region.
It is very stupid to believe that India has no trade with USA, besides IT-individuals-export.
for the sake of argument, lets assume, Trump tweaks H1B/L1B Temp work program and reduce number of admissions in to US but will it stop layoffs. Will it stop jobs going to India, China or elsewhere. Trump boasts of saving Carrier jobs but in real they are still laying off. We hear lot of manufacturing companies moving to Mexico for cheap labor, less regulatory mess and cheap taxes. Too much Protectionist measures will only hurt American Companies overseas. Please note American companies have lot of business interest outside US. Trump should find a fine balance between saving jobs and globalization. MNCs may be greedy but they are also operating globally and generating lot of revenue for shareholders in Wall street and also paying modest US taxes and supporting lot of jobs in US which need not necessarily related to their business operations in US alone. if some one writing code for some Cisco products doesn't mean that Cisco product is sold only in US. you are selling same product globally but coding may be done in San jose. Minimum wage is going to kill lot of decent paying jobs for non-college educated or for college pass-outs. This companies will forced to automate lot of staff.
@KLlOch7-3gyb: I agree with some of your points. The rest is a stretch.
Trump is a dummy and only knows of the world through his own myopic lens of "deal making" which he prides himself on. He doesn't understand the world stage or broader intricacies of global trade. You are right, what Trump threatens could trigger a trade war in which we have little leverage in some cases (China). Besides, Trump's issues with China (e.g. currency manipulation) are in many cases misguided and from 7 years ago. He is out of touch in a way that is nothing short of terrifying.
Your H1B argument on the other hand, is a weak one. I don't believe sovereign nations don't care one bit if their people are happy and getting good paying jobs abroad. Sure, these workers are making decent money, sending it back and helping the economics at home in many cases, but that is not part of the broad multi-national trade plan that nations build upon. What will stop Trump and others from messing with the current H1B program is pressure from the CEOs and others who rely on the cheap labor. That is who Trump listens to and cares about. It is no different than US farmers continuing to quietly fight for (legal-temp or illegal) who pick the crops here in the USA. Nobody wants $15 strawberries, including you. That is why in many cases legislation, law enforcement and others look the other way.
If the H1B program goes away or changes dramatically as we know it, it will be because of corporate abuse. Don't blame Trump. Blame Wall Street.
Curbing H1B Visas will have retaliation on Cisco Asia Business. Majority of H1B/L1B Visas are used by Indians, Chinese, Pakistanis, Vietnamese, Filipinos. Cisco get around $10 Billion annually from Asia. It’s a growing market unlike Europe, US/Canada, Aus/NZ.
Cisco will expand its Business in Asia and wouldn't like any policies that hit Asians ability to work in US. I feel Cisco will be hit badly in Asian revenues and it only result in more layoffs in US.
Trump is clueless, he doesn't know we are living in intertwined world. Cisco get 70 to 80% Revenue outside US/Canada.
US MNCs will face tough time outside US due to Trump Protectionist policies. Boeing is already afraid it might lose exclusive deal to make planes to ever emerging Chinese aviation market. I also see US automobile giants will face hostile environment in selling their Cars. I guess Europe MNCs might benefit due to Trump protectionist policies.
From Trump:
"We will fight to protect every last American life," said Donald Trump
He said he would not allow Americans to be replaced by foreign workers
Trump will fix the H1B problem soon!
Deadwood burn managers speaking from experience. Keep your job fire the deadwood shows integrity your reports will respect you even if costs you a blue badge from your reports.
Managers - The H1B folks are not the ones responsible for the probelms
Shielding your team from politics at Cisco is dangerous. If your team doesn't know what's going on politically, they will get caught flat footed when the manager has to make cuts. A manager that shields his team better be darn good at making sure they don't get cut also.....it has to be both talents, otherwise he/she will eventually suffer a reputation damaging LR of his team. I told my manager to stop shielding and give us the full scoop, but my manager wouldn't.....completely lost respect when the LRs started (and he/she will likely blame it on the execs above them, but never forget.....they, the manager, have to sign off on the LRs).
Too much shielding can be bad like shielding the deadwood to keep your reports numbers high to keep your job while the rest of the team is feeling the stress of carrying the deadwood weight hence the competent workers begin to look elsewhere and you are stuck with the deadwood and eventually you have to quit because your reputation is on the line.
During my decade-plus at Cisco, I worked for some talented managers, and some frankly crappy ones. One thing the talented ones did that the crappy ones didn't was shield their team members from unnecessary politics. They stop the political sh-- from rolling downhill so the team can get their work done.
If the manager is good at this aspect of their job, their team members rarely see how much effort it takes.
@KLlOch7-fnn You miss the big picture. What they really do is to promote themselves and boost their cash rewards.
the damagers , sorry i meant the mangers for sure. other than sending useless emails everyday and keeping busy by attending even more useless meetings ( getting updates from everyone else) everyday and making eve more useless ppt. slides.....what is the real productive thing that they actually do !