Thread regarding Sears layoffs

Sears can't survive beyond second quarter here's why

  1. Loss in 4th quarter should reach $1 billion plus

  2. The loss will swallow up the rest of the revolving credit facility and the cash at hand

  3. Eddies hedge fund is tapped out and cannot lend enough money to make a difference

  4. Any proceeds from kcd go straight to the pension fund not Sears

  5. Inventory is dropping and worthless to borrow against

  6. Innovel and Sears home service may bring in $1 billion which would be swallowed up by losses by June- that's if a deal could be done now for them

  7. The real estate and leases cannot be monetized in time- seritage is struggling to process what it has- the real estate left us not worth as much and would be clawed back in any case in a bankruptcy so is no Longer attractive to monetize.

  8. There is nothing left to borrow or burn

  9. Suppliers are switching off the taps

  10. Senior leaders are leaving

  11. Call centres are shutting

  12. The stores that are left that should be profitable are bleeding cash at increasing rates

  13. June sees Sears having to begin repaying some of the $3.7 billion debt.

  14. Real estate taxes are due

15 short term loans against inventory and real estate are due.

  1. By June Sears should have burnt through another $1 billion.

  2. It cannot shut stores fast enough - it has no ability to stem the losses and if cannot raise any more cash.

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Post ID: @OP+KTjHZ9D

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Great post- could I add that Sears has to make $400 million or so of pension contributions in this quarter and something like $600 million next year alone just to keep the pension deficit at over $2 billion. Where is that money coming from....

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Post ID: @3avb+KTjHZ9D

I work for a supplier of Sears. Sears is at their credit limit with us and I know terms are getting ready to get cut significantly. Additionally, Sears just isn't really ordering anything anymore. I'd say weekly sales volume for us to Sears is down 75% over the last 3 months. It kind of makes me a bit sad-- I work with some great people at Sears and I'd hate for them to be outta work.

Btw... the Hoffman Estates hq... holy crap!! Definitely a leftover from better times. That place was like buildings inside of buildings!

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Post ID: @2qnr+KTjHZ9D

You DM is full of crap. He's towing the company line to keep associates as long as possible since many are leaving and no one wants to work at Sears or Kmart to replace those who leave. Our district has lost 4 store mangers in the last 2 months as they moved on to other companies and there is no one to fill the positions. Those stores are running with no store manager, just the assistant having to do the job at assistant mgr pay. So either the company can't find anyone qualified who wants to be a SM or they figure why hire someone new when the company is close to bk and they can use the assistants to do the SM job at ASM pay until the whole company implodes.

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Post ID: @1ojw+KTjHZ9D

Obviously a DM isn't going to say anything negative. Even store managers and some leads go out of their way to dance around the truth and put sprinkles and icing over it.

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Post ID: @apd+KTjHZ9D

i'd like to see eddie try and refute the bullet points of the O/P on pebble.

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Post ID: @cvd+KTjHZ9D

he he- ask yoru dm how pushing new ideas to transform the company worked out in the 3rd quarter- they lost 3/4 of a frigging billion dollars- or over $8 million a day. EVERY DAY. With ideas to return to profitability like that who needs competitors.....

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Post ID: @esn+KTjHZ9D

yeah ask your dm whether he is aware that sears no longer owns the rights to kcd and that any money raised goes to the pension fund.

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Post ID: @vrq+KTjHZ9D

to the person who's dm said they have enough assets- tell your dm about the O/P's post- also how could anyone in hq know that they have enought assets - in order to do that you'd need to know what your losses are and i can guarantee no one on hq thought they'd see a $750 million 3 rd quarter loss- remmeber as late as last quater they were saying they'd go ebitda positive this quarter...... lets see how you dm feels after a $1 billion 4th quarter loss. i cannot believe that yoru dm really believes that sears will ever be profitable- either they are a liar or a sociopath.

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Post ID: @byg+KTjHZ9D

Everyone I know at Hoffman is leaving or looking to leave, those who have not have no choice (they are old with no alternative career prospects or have been at the company so long they don't know how to look elsewhere) so in response yes, everyone is concerned about the stability of their roles and this is being shown by the high turnover. Mass layoffs are coming next month.

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Post ID: @red+KTjHZ9D

According to our DM Sears has enough assets to sell to stay in business a long time. He told us that the people in corporate know this and that is why they continue to push new ideas to "transform" the company and make us profitable. He said that no one at Hoffman is worried and that we should just continue to give members a "Wow" experience. What is it like at corporate and is he right or wrong? So many mixed signals.

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Post ID: @wem+KTjHZ9D

Great post O/P- could we add that Eddie cannot take it private and no one is stupid enough to do so as well.

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Post ID: @xdo+KTjHZ9D

Eddie's last payday loan of $300 million was borrowed against the current inventory. Something like $1.5 billion of inventory had to be pledged vs that loan. This post was an excellent summary of the position SHLD is in. I do think "Eddie's leadership" deserves to be a line item above, but that's a quibble.

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Post ID: @xwq+KTjHZ9D

Good post - thanks

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Post ID: @gyz+KTjHZ9D

All good points and after possibly the longest decline in corporate history, it appears Sears is about done. I would add that the real world value of the so called Sears brands is near zero, since no retailer in their right mind would buy anything associated with this dying company while it's still operating. After bankruptcy the names will be available for peanuts. The company claims they have 3.9b in liquid assets consisting mostly of inventory, but it will be hard to continue operating as a retailer with no merchandise for the customers to buy, and no employees to ring up the sales. This of course won't stop SHC from continuing to cut inventory and personnel. The stores already look like they are halfway through a going out of business sale. They might as well put up the liquidation signs and get this sad saga over with.

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Post ID: @ilc+KTjHZ9D

Very, very good post. I'd add that EVERYONE is leaving, which is more damaging than the existing crop of useless senior leaders leaving - those lower down the rungs are at least doing work and are present - senior leaders are 'working from home in another state' when u know they are just sitting on a beach somewhere

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Post ID: @thu+KTjHZ9D

Great post

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