Say i am off to a competitor, how many days should be the notice period ? I could not find a link to resign online from HR page in CEC although there is a one according to my colleagues who took the same route before, any idea where it is buried in HR CEC page ? Also what is the definition of a competitor ?perhaps there is a list somewhere ? I have heard that you are walked out of the office the same day if you are joining a competitor. I wonder in that case you will get paid for the notice period you mention in resignation.
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@KX3rvaX-7rrj: I think I know who you may be, and I can say you are a class act! 7rrj worked tirelessly during the notice period and saved our bvtts. Thanks for being classy, friend, and good luck in your new adventures.
Personally, I gave around a month's notice (it's not as long as it sounds due to that month including Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays).
I was treated just fine and allowed to work my notice period. In my case I left for another tech giant and I have no idea whether Cisco considers them a competitor (they were an option in the dropdown, if that really means anything). They probably wouldn't come up if you had to name competitors, but you could certainly make an argument that they are one.
Process was pretty much what was said below - verbally tell your manager and then follow up in HRMS.
All things considered, it was a pretty painless experience process wise. Obviously, ymmv. I would have probably been a little more conservative if it were a more direct competitor.
Best of luck.
1mjx: what about other states? And I think you could at least apply for it and see if you get it because it was no fault of your own that you were released early.
I know a guy in CA that gave his notice and they escorted him out and he got unemployment paid to him until he started his new job.
1ptk - In MA, if you claim unemployment insurance. You have to wait a week before you can file. During the time you are between jobs, you are expected to be searching for a new job and must keep records of your job search and must spend at least 3 days per week looking for a new job. In the case where you already have a job offer that you have accepted and are just waiting to start at the new company, I doubt if you could claim unemployment.
First you go to your manager and tell him (preferably in person, but email can work too), then you go to hrms and choose "Resignation confirmation" (if I remember correctly).
Whether you will be walked out, depends on many factors - your manager, your work, your standing etc.. I've seen variety of ways of handling this - from walking out the guy immediately, to people working till the last minute, heading for a farewall team-lunch afterwards and dropping by to leave the CVO few days after finishing employment.
Except in Michigan. Michigan is not at-will.
So what are the requirements there? In my case, both CA and NC are both "at-will" states and my offer letter clearly stated that Cisco could terminate my employment at any time for any reason and that I could quit at any time without notice for any reason.
Most companies expect that you'll give 2 weeks notice. Most companies will ignore the 2 weeks notice and walk you out the door immediately and pay you for the notice rather than take the chance you'll do something malicious while you remain.
On the other hand, I had a company--US Bank--who required 10 business days notice, not "2 weeks". I gave my notice just before on a Monday the week before Thanksgiving. I was told that I'd have to work the Monday & Tuesday after Thanksgiving because they were closed Thanksgiving and the day after. Then, suddenly the manager calls me 30 min before the end of the day the day before Thanksgiving and tells me to clean out my desk and be gone in the next 30 min. I was NOT paid for the Monday or Tuesday that they initially told me I'd have to work, but I was so glad to be gone that I didn't care.
I just resigned. Gave my two weeks notice. When you fill in the HRMS file, that request to end employement has a drop down of companies. If the company you will be working for is on that list, it's considered a competitor. Be sure you have taken screenshots of your 401k, paychecks, and commission statements if sales. My manager had to 'approve' my termination and once he hit submit, it was about 15 min before my VPN was taken down. I was asked to return my computer that day. I was paid for the entire two weeks and recieved my unused PTO as well. pretty painless. Good luck! I am VERY happy I did it.
@KX3rvaX-lwfv: Except in Michigan. Michigan is not at-will.
No advance notice is required. No matter what they say, you are only required to inform them, in writing, when you will stop working for them. 2 weeks in advance would be a nice gesture from you, but absolutely not required. You are not required to provide any reason or say where you are going.
When you notify them, they may tell you to not come to the office and revoke your access (aka "walk you out"), but they will still pay you up until your last day.
This begs the question: Why not give a 6-month advance notice? If they tell you to stay home and still pay you that could be fun. They could try to LR you, but you would have to be part of a larger group otherwise it would be without-cause (which they cannot do). They could try to fire you with cause, but it takes time to build a fictitious cause. I wonder.
Give two weeks notice, and you'll be paid for that time. If you work in a physical building, expect to be escorted out. Even if you're remote, your network access and/or VPN will be terminated within a short amount of time, usually like 24 hours. Your benefits will be in place until the end of the month that you terminate employment (I.e., the end of the two weeks). This was my experience.
After receiving an offer from a competitor with a 30% compensation increase, I resigned Cisco and gave the traditional two weeks notice. HR walked me out of the building immediately. Cisco paid me for an additional two weeks of work after they pushed me out. It was a nice parting gift of free paid vacation from Cisco.
Two days after I was walked out of my building, Cisco called and asked me to return to work the remaining time to help with a critical project that required my specialized skill set. I indicated that I was offended by being walked out and declined to return. Cisco paid me for the time anyway.
Except for the shock of being immediately ejected, Cisco treated me well on the way out.
All of my colleagues on my team received immediate, substantial, off cycle raises after my departure.
I believe that if you give notice and they terminate you immediately that you are entitled to unemployment benefits for the notice period. I'm not positive, and I'm not sure it's worth filing a claim since unemployment bennies are a fraction of your pay, but it's an option if you need the money.
Ok, thanks . Am i going to get paid for the notice period or employment is terminated right away when you are escorted out ?
The employment is "at-will" in the States. You could resign immediately. If you don't want to burn the bridge then two weeks will be good. However, you will be escorted out right away after you tell them that you are going to join a competitor.