Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

And the flip side is just as bad -- my example is colleague G, a 20+ year person who never did a damn bit of work on their own. Like a fast-growing parasitic plant, the person s---ed up all the sun (I.e. was promoted 3+ grade levels beyond their skill) while more capable peers fought for scraps or died off. G was retained and promoted while far more capable/conscientious/ethical engineers were perp-walked. Thankfully I never was in G's group but the behavior was still very annoying to observe. G's new manager has been apprised of all this but like his predecessors may end up continuing the bad habit of propping up G. Hopefully he'll do the right thing and kick G to the curb. It's bad when the focal system is too poor to differentiate good vs bad, but it's far worse when the system knowingly protects certain bad players at the expense of good ones.

I'd rather not say about colleague F. Let's just say race isn't a factor. Again, I have nothing against diversity hire even if the person is comparable skilled. But lol, colleague F is not even close.

I thought this sort of sheet only happens in the governmenr and defense sector. One of the reasons why I found government and defense companies so distasteful careers early on when I was an intern... And probably why government and defense don't usually have the best talent.

What is the race/ ethnicity of colleague F? Is it what we all think it is?

One of these days, when it's my company, this bullsheet won't happen. I care about profitability and having the best. This is not a non profit charity.

I have nothing against diversity, all else being equal. That's why some of the best engineers in my group are women who can hold their technical weight and often school others why their solution is crap. But they are in those roles because of their ability. The sort of diversity for diversity sake is just ridiculous and determental not only to the company's ability but also a huge discouragement to the top talent which will eventually be fed up with the bullsheet and leave. You would never see this crap at a Samsung, TSM, Huawei any other asian company.

By hiring based on diversity you forego hiring based on "the best qualified candidate".

If "social justice" was the same as "justice" they wouldn't have to add "social" in front of it...

I hired for a large group. Chinese and Indian from tier 1 " we got to many"

URM " bring then for onsite as long as they met minimum GPA"

It was clear hitting dashboard for URM was critical and even more biased on promos and managers to gr8 and higher. If a URM you got it made at intel as BK cares more about URM than he does about regaining leadership in technology or Moores Law !

@kcm - That's right. Intel hires the most "diverse" candidates, not the best. Thankful I got out of that sh--hole.

I've participated in a number of panel interview committees in which we were told to "go easy" on the questions for young women. This was an immediate advantage mgmt wanted for this hiring group. I've seen many more talented men not given offers in favor of less talented, knowledgeable women. Intel does not hire the best candidates.

Seriously... How do you become a software engineering manager at a company, when you never in the past 15 years ever written a line of code yourself, except maybe some shell/bash/perl script for testing? That's what Intel just did...Lol....

...I guess the person counts towards the diversity numbers at intel though.... Lol...

@L2aqiML here. Forgot to mention, I work at a leading wireless company. We did a recent bottom 20% purge that we normally do every year... I guess many of the people got jobs at Intel, some even got promotions into Intel...lol...