Thread regarding Wal-Mart Stores Inc. layoffs

I agree with Dork :)

Of the projects that are listed I'm very familiar with a few and we know they are being cut or replaced. This is a valid effort in ISD to stop duplicating work and systems. It doest mean the teams working on them are being displaced.

I wouldn't put much trust in this thread. I'm very familiar with half of the projects mentioned and the descriptions given in this thread basically explain what's already in progress. For example, an app that says "Replace" or "Scrap and replace", actually refers to the exact work that's already in progress. Furthermore, aT least a couple of those projects are supposed to be completed by end of Feb after several months (and in one case, a couple years). I could be wrong bcz the powers that be have made uneducated decisions before, but it would be a complete waste to end a project that's nearly complete in which the business has demanded changes.

Did someone really just ask us to clarify "red tape"? Is that a serious ask? ISD makes Christmas videos poking fun at all the red tape, get a clue. It's all over. The shadow IT guys have a 30 minute meeting with customer, take some notes, maybe clarify a few things and then go start developing. Anything ISD does other than that is the red tape we are talking about. Having to go through a PM or BA writing down all kinds of requirements and then having a customer fill out a change request just to change the font on a screen, all kinds of security this, governance that, change control, sign offs from this person or that person. This is all red tape. Anyone who disagrees that their is progress-stifling red tape isn't paying attention.

If you can't write code, you don't belong in IT. Most cannot. It's called information technology. Not information beurocrosy.

ISD is full of S_ _T and Bureaucracy. Theres no doubt about that.

Regarding RED TAPE, this is an unfortunate byproduct of having a very large IT group. In order to properly sequence work through numerous departments and teams that are juggling ever changing priorities and the constant escalations, there has to be an infrastructure in place. Yes, it's not pretty, we know that. We hate it as well. There are times when we shake our heads and throw our hands up in agony. No one inside ISD thinks this is good, but without processes and some kind of regulatory throttling, it would be total chaos. I will tell you this, though, no one in ISD comes to work in the morning with the intent on making it hard for the business. Actually, we love you guys.

@4jmf Would you please clarify "red tape"...

I do not agree with you but would love to hear more about your perception of us and "red tape"

When I brought up the FACT that the business doesn't like doing business with ISD I didn't say anything about ISD associates and was quite clear that ISD's problem is its processes and red tape. And no, I didn't work in ISD before moving into the business. Unless you were the mastermind behind the Byzantine bureaucracy in ISD there is no need to take my comment personally.

It's not about "Shadow IT" or ISD. It's about the constant "Do More With Less" and then "Do Even More With Even Less" attitude that emanates from the highest levels of ISD and the business. This company is filled with s----up directors and VPs that won't take a stand against stupidity at the top. Why are we working the amount of hours we work to be treated like this? They don't care if we have to work nights or weekends. They don't care if we don't see our children at night. They expect us to get the company email on our phones and be available 24x7 for whatever they want.

The VPs and executives are rewarded when they outsource another project to one of our vendors, who does the work offshore for pennies. Just look around - look at all the vendors and all the H1B visa holders (which we spend thousands of dollars on for each, by the way).

Maybe Jeremy can fix this. Sorry for my rant.

Yes, lots, if not all or most, are happening today. They've already started and completed in some areas.

Stupid people troll with stupid jokes when people are concerned about their livelihood

Pitiful and sad

Are they happening today?

Keeping it classy, wow. It doesn't matter where the people came from. The business occasionally has an ISD person actually do work and help them so of course they pluck them and of course shadow IT is full of ex ISD people, who else would it be, genius, dentists and auto mechanics?! Sheesh, what a tough guy

Shadow IT sounding c---y as f---k. Most of you came from over here in isd any ol way. I remember this one broad who spent 14 years over in ISD. The day she got her a position with the "business" she changed her old attitude and would get offended if someone asked her something about an old project. F her and F shadow IT. Britches

You're absolutely right about the business cringing when even thinking about having to work with ISD. I'm in the business and our systems team suggested that I ask ISD to help upgrade a system we use to a new platform and I said Hell no! I said they can either find another way or I'll leave it as is. I need a system I can manage and change potentially every day as business needs change. No way I could accomplish that if I had to deal with ISD bureaucracy and process. ISD is their own worst enemy.

There will still be lots of "shadow IT" spread throughout the home office. ISD is just too slow getting anything done. If the business isn't allowed to have that, they'll just buy 3rd party stuff. Every time you even bring up having to work with ISD, the business just cringes at the thought of spending a year to get a 4-week project completed

My heart goes out to all that will be affected. Including myself. Our job does not define us. This is just another one of those things. I hate it. I hate its frequency. Peace!

There were some developers displaced today in ISD, not many but it was spread throughout not just one area. A couple of PMs also. There were no meetings scheduled ahead of time.

All of the vendor rooms at the home office are booked for ALL of tomorrow, i myself am not worried, but a lot of people are going to be let go from hr

Here's an updated list as of meetings last night (I'm not the OP) the list the OP posted was outdated. Also there are a few shadow IT teams that are suppose to be combined to work with WM Tech on these projects. In the past ISD and Shadow It haven't really colloberated well and that is suppose to change in the restructure we are all going through. I'm not sure 100% on those details as I was primarily in the meetings for the replacement list below, but it has been talked about a lot with the discovery of the embedded IT people in the business sides leading some of these projects. I'll keep updating as I find out more info unless they fire me too. We have another meeting this afternoon that is the final until the beginning of February.

EMI(Scrap & Replace)

FSS(Replace)

GRS(Enhance)

DSC(Migration Complete)

ADS(Migration In Progress)

CLR(Scrap & Replace)

DART(Scrap & Replace)

Systems Portal (New)

DSS(5 Year Replacement Plan - Part of Systems Portal)

BEI(Replacement in Progress - IBM Cognoss)

APR(Replace, possible conversion to WM Tech project - Currently primarily contractor based development)

SmartPricing(Enhance to handle stores)

RPAS(Replace)

Hyperion Systems (Replace)

It not "for every $10k made in that timeframe" it's "for every $10k of base pay" so if you were a 10 year associate and made $60,000 you would get 26 weeks severance.

(10 years x 2 weeks)+($60,000/$10,000)

@poster-thank you for the clarification . Not sure why so many people here try to mislead their fellow associates. This is not going to help other than causing more stress to your peers. Post only genuine info guys.

This is the poster, I contacted Walmart today to clarify the Incentive issue spoken about. They said I was told wrong or misunderstood, I will still receive the incentive. If I were to have been displaced 60 days prior to January 31st I would not of course.

"I viewed the severance policy a few days ago and it has not changed. Still 2 weeks for every year and 1 week per 10k of base pay, up to a max of 40 weeks." - Accurate.

I viewed the severance policy a few days ago and it has not changed. Still 2 weeks for every year and 1 week per 10k of base pay, up to a max of 40 weeks.

this went viral, 2000 views

as a side note, do not use names in posts, they (admins) will nuke the entire thread - they will also block your ip which can be circumvented by using proxies but it's pain in the rear

read the rules below, it's straightforward

I heard there is no more severance packages. You only get 8 weeks pay and that's it.

Is this still true?

Trump is tweeting congratulations to WM on its promise to create 10000 new jobs

But most of those are for hourly workers at the stores and fulfillment centers,

The salaried jobs will continue to decline

It's amazing how many acronyms I recognize. I do hope for some there might be hope in staying to help the teams transitioning some of the apps. Possibly new opportunities too.

Were you in ISD Operations? I heard Paul Antony had an all-area meeting scheduled for yesterday afternoon. I'm not familiar with all the projects you mentioned; trying to get a grasp on which areas impacted. I was let go last year from what is now the "Office of the CIO."

@Anonymous. I suspect if you were making a salary of 60k upon termination, then you would get 6 extra weeks pay. Us slave laborers in the trenchers aren't going to get a golden parachute as you described.

I don't understand this:

"You get 2 weeks pay for every year you were at Walmart, and then another weeks pay for every $10K you made in that timeframe."

This makes it sound like for every $10k you made while you worked here ($1,000,000 if you worked 10 years @ $100k per year) that you'd get another 100 weeks of pay ($1,000,000 divided by $10,000)

When did you get laid off? It doesn't make sense not to give incentive while you are still employed for next 60 days and also so late in the game (almost end of january)

Thank you very much for the info. Can you explain what this means exactly? ". . . and then another weeks pay for every $10K you made in that timeframe". How does that work exactly?

Do you forsee a lot of changes in middle management a d director level associates?

Yeah that's what I was told, no incentive unless I come back by the 31st.

Yeah, the vestings in March

Thank you for the info. It is surprising that you don't get the incentive. I thought you would still be "employed" technically for the 60 days due to the WARN act that requires a 60 day notice.

What do you mean keep the RSRs and stock? Everything to date is yours and cannot be taken from you. Are you referring to the vesting amount in March?

For the incentive I will not receive unless I come back by the 31st. I was given 60 days to still find a new job. This is new FYI, so basically if I do not find another job by the 31st, I don't get the incentive.

You keep your RSRs & Stock

BYOD discount of course is gone, but it'll take a while to become effective if you do not contact your cellular provider.

You get 2 weeks pay for every year you were at Walmart, and then another weeks pay for every $10K you made in that timeframe. You get to keep your discount card if you have the lifetime of course.

Like I said, I can technically come back, but you all know as well as I do that with the time of year it is I probably won't be finding anything within a week so the incentive is toast for me. They have kind of locked most of the ISD jobs until after the 31st.

I really hope things work out for you. Can I ask about your severance? I heard they made some drastic changes in the package as compared to the last time.