Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

I left Cisco recently after I was let go and rehired in August. I cannot say for sure they target workers over 40 as my whole org was let go.

I know lot of people young in 30 's that you can call deadwood. One guy in AS I knew for 10 years all the way from 20's. I changed teams often and went from a traditional networking guy with multiple ccies to an devops automation engineer using ansible , python and Go. With lots of virtual classes and free safari subscription, there is no limit to learning . Btw all courses under $999 in learn.cisco.com do not require manager approval.

Glassdoor is a joke! Companies can actually remove there, you cannot trust anything there.

@Lslt1Sf-bia so counter it then....

@eit

If older people are being late go it's not because they are old it's because their skills etc is low. ... Ageism is not rife in cisco. Don't believe all you read here.

Ageism IS RIFE in Cisco. A lady won the right to sue Cisco instead of arbitration based on how she was treated. The numbers from my BU don't lie. 90% over 40, 75% over 45 & 65% over 50.

My group had a training budget to help us keep our skills current, and we did. Problem was, I cost more than the younger person with the same skills so s/he was kept while I was booted out.

While s/he could do the job as well as I could, where's the reward for seniority? Used to, it was first in, last out as long as everything else was equal. Now it's who is cheapest to keep. What happens when the GOP raises the minimum age for retirement benefits claiming people can work to an older age due to better health benefits--and we can in white collar jobs--but companies won't hire/retain older workers because they're too expensive based on their experience?

Everyone gets older and everyone gets more experienced. However, there are not enough jobs at the top in order to continually promote upwards in order to earn the higher wages that yours skills & experience justify. So what do you do when you get older?

Ageism is not tosh. I know for a FACT that it is on the global head of sales agenda, to lower the average age of sales by the time he retires in 2 years to fly around the world.

So, we have to put up with some of the crap here, and it is crap.

But there are important trends here. Just look at the "top companies" and you'll see what's going on elsewhere. I've been looking other places and there is almost ZERO on this site for certain large companies. Wonder why? Why? Because they are not just dumping their employees to the curb.

For starters, many large companies -- if they want to "get younger" -- incentivize their old bvstards to leave. Everyone is happy. They take a small hit on the balance sheet. So what.

Unfortunately, some of the tech leaders have found you can just screw the old guys without any push back, so they do.

And f--- you to whomever is going to call the 50+ deadwood.

Regrettably, trends and views on the other site (with the door made of glass) are completely "managed". Coming from somebody who used to look at the site quite regularly, the views cannot be fully trusted and any negativity gets magically diluted or resended. Just watch it yourself after the next big LR - probably not too long to wait.

Cisco HR is actively manning Glassdoor and filling it with fluff to overcome their poor reviews.

I work with younger and older staff and all I can say is that the main issue here is lack of experienced leadership. Prime example a leader who was brought in to be a people person but zero knowledge of what the work actually entails. I have moved around different groups and the groups where I saw success was in groups where the leadership came from the bottom and worked their way up on their own without any help. The comfortable employee does not have to be over 50 years old, a 35 year old can be extremely lazy and pretend he/she is doing no wrong. A great leader would identify the problem and take care of it. Until leadership members stop cruising with the "I'm just waiting for this or that to happen" mentality no one in their group will be feeling a sense of accomplishment. My best advice is if your manager has been the same way and there is not been much team success chances are there will not be much success for you best thing to do is just leave that group and look for something better for YOU!

And there we have a case in point!

This is the biggest load of cr@p I have heard for a long time. Come on guys the xenophobic tosh you get on this site we are used to but this ageism thing takes the biscuit. If older people are being late go it's not because they are old it's because their skills etc is low. Typically they want to be spoon fed training by their managers rather than take ownership of their own training. Ageism is not rife in cisco. Don't believe all you read here.

Agreed.

Was watching the CEO and company ratings on Glassdoor with interest for a few weeks after the last layoff cycle. The numbers were trending down as they had been. I looked back a few weeks later...curiously looking pretty positive and no signs of that downward trend. Hmmm....?

With that many reviews in-play, a trend should not change that quickly. With the amount of marketing Cisco seems to be putting up there, I fear a conflict of interest.

There's some manipulation at that site, which disappoints me. Even though there is a lot of noise and BS on this site, you get raw, unvarnished gems you'd never get on that other site.