Intel starts going down in flames. Watch for stock price drops throughout the day as official Ryzen reviews come in.
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@2oqj No they didn't forget, they were laid off. Self inflicted wound.
http://247wallst.com/technology-3/2017/03/01/this-wall-street-firm-says-intel-could-get-crushed-by-competition-in-2018/
Where the hell is Canonlake answer to AMD. In years past TMG always delivered like clock work. Did someone in TMG forget to execute ?
Fanboys clogging up this board.
This day will be remembered as beggining of the end of Intel - we are seeing history in the making here
middle of the year is when the prices are going to be high
Oh please. That's the most moronic thing to say..
Intel is up 2-3 cents. Hardly something to gloat over. What was it's stock price for the past year and what was YOY return on intel stock for the last year? It's been stuck in the mid thirties for how many years?
And what was the YOY return for AMD shareholders? (Hint: AMD stock was around $2.50 a year ago)....
Intel stock goes up, AMD stock goes down. Ryzen performance was a minor disappointment after all...
I meant the 7700k not the 7700x
well to be fair, Ryzen 1800x and 1700x aren't really good for gaming if you crave the extreme gaming performance. Part of the reason for this is most of the game developers have optimized specifically for Intel since AMD was nowhere for the past decade. So existing game performance wont be able to take advantage of Ryzen multicore optimizations. Ryzen 7's are more geared for your power user workstation/home office/video editing/developer that might game here and there.... It's not that Ryzen 7's can't be used for gaming. It's just if the only thing you do is game, you probably want to get the 7700x...
The interesting part is that game studios have now come out on record to say they are going to be working AMD to optimize their game engines for Ryzen...For a game studio to do that, it's an acknowledgement that the platform is mainstream and serious for game studios to invest time and money to do this.
Competition is good. And it's long overdue.
Intel is so reamed...
The intel design is again proven how bad they are. This time no process to bale them out as TmG and LTD total failed skipping 14 and 10 is even later of it comes at all.
AMD like Opteron days is equal to superior yet use olde process node.
Intel people are really incompetent, that is what a monopoly does to engineers and executives, makes them really stupid
Couldn't happen to bettter group of a$$ holes
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-processor-review,24.html
It’s been a long time coming for AMD. The past year or four have been pretty dramatic for the company. They have been unable to keep up with market milking Intel in terms of per core performance, and then the economy collapsed as well. Ryzen, however, brings AMD back to the table, and they have a strong hand to deal. The introduced processors have been nothing short of impressive looking at them from any perspective. That will bring much needed competition back into the game. Even today at launch, AMD will introduce a processor that can compete with Intel’s 8-core 6900K processor for less than half the price of what Intel is asking. Not just that, Intel is charging an arm and a leg for their motherboard chipsets hence the artificially inflated high prices. There's where AMD will make a difference as well. It's all more fair. So thanks to AMD, that means 8-core is going mainstream, and that opens up a plethora of possibilities for developers and game designers if the market slowly moves to more cores that are properly fast as well. Thing is though, Intel remains the top dawg in this arena, they can answer to anything that AMD has to offer and they do have a little more flexibility in terms of clock frequencies. None the less, with the Ryzen series processors AMD offers close to equal raw processor performance and sometimes even faster performance, for far better prices.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3176191/computers/ryzen-review-amd-is-back.html
There are pros and cons. Seems likw Ryzen isn't performing well at the lower resolution gaming. Everything else looks good. Price is a bargain if you need a multi-core for things like video processing and you plan on running games at higher resolution.
The good news is that intel will cut the 7700x price, so if you want that system, it will be much cheaper in the coming months
From the Moorehead article:
"Dell, HP Inc. and Lenovo were all present at the event last week, showing off future Ryzen systems. I was surprised at just how open these folks were and that all the “big three” are committed at least productizing desktop Ryzen. While this doesn’t guarantee tens of millions of Ryzen units from the big three, it is a good start. "
Yowza!
Thx! Here's another one.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmoorhead/2017/03/02/amd-ryzen-desktop-amd-said-it-would-be-awesome-and-it-is/?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=partner&utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix&yptr=yahoo#55487d182d48
This website is getting slammed with interest...but review of retail processors...now the gag order is lifted....
BTW: The Ryzen 1800x and now the 1700x are both sold out on amazon....This is the second sold out on the 1800x on Amazon because they had two preorder allotments...
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/amd_ryzen_7_1800x_1700x_1700/
"When it comes to performance, the R7 1800X, R7 1700X, and R7 1700 all deliver exceptional performance. Not only when you compare against AMD's own FX previous generation CPU's, but against Intel's new Kaby Lake Core i7 7700K and Haswell-E 8C/16T Core i7 5960X. In heavy multi-threaded workloads, the Ryzen processors provide comparable or better performance across the board. In single threaded applications, the boost clock speeds drive performance to comparable levels when the core clock speeds are not too far apart. The Core i7 7700K at 4.9GHz is still going to outperform the R7 1800X at 4GHz single threaded. Where Summit Ridge shines is in that multi-threaded workload environment. Single threaded performance is not bad to say the least, especially when you compare to the FX line up. It's safe to say AMD hit its performance targets.
Getting a bit more performance out of this trio of R7 Ryzen chips was fairly simple. Using AMD's Ryzen Master application was pretty much a one stop shop when it came to boosting clock speeds. The manufacturers' tools were just simple to use, resulting in easy to attain stable overclocks. AMD offers plenty of granularity when it comes to boosting core clock speed by breaking down the base core clock multiplier ratios into fourths, giving you 25MHz increments rather than jumping 100MHz at a time. Overclocking did not boost the single threaded results by large margins on the R7 1800X, but on the lower boost clock chips I saw some performance increases. When you push the all core overclocks, the performance scaled very well. The only disappointment for me was I did not reach the "majority" 4.2 to 4.3GHz all core overclocks. Best case scenario I was between 4.0GHz on the R7 1700X and 4.1GHz on the R7 1700. Could it be a limit on the board? No telling until I put the chips in the ASUS Crosshair Hero and MSI Titanium X370 boards to validate the clock speed results.
Moving to a new platform and DDR4 memory only helps improve memory and cache bandwidth performance. Gaming performance has always been big for AMD and it once again has a platform that delivers a great gaming experience that only gets tighter as the resolution scales up to 4K. I found gaming to be exceptionally smooth with the Intel systems and the Ryzen platform to be equally smooth, while the FX platform was less so while gaming. Again, a major step forward for AMD.
The performance and platform are great, but what really drove the point home to Intel over the past week or so was the widely publicized benchmark results shown by AMD. It has something to talk about and wants everyone to know about it. For good reason! So much so that before Ryzen was actually available for purchase (not counting pre-orders), Intel took the drastic step of dropping pricing across its line up to try and maintain some market share. AMD hit Intel where it hurts. Price point. At one poiint over the past week, AMD systems and Ryzen processors were the most ordered parts. That says something about the folks waiting for the brand to step up and deliver exceptional performance.
Pricing on the R7 1800X comes in at $499, easily 50% cheaper than the comparable 8C/16T Core i7 6900K. The R7 1700X is available at $399 and hits at the Core i7 6800K, and the $329 R7 1700 is targeted at the Core i7 7700K. Any way you go, you get a fully unlocked core and eco system to play with for less money. The wait is over and it was well worth it! GYSOT!"
performance
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/amd_ryzen_7_1800x_1700x_1700/9.htm
Could the OP post a few links to sites with expected reviews? Ryzen is indeed being launched this week, so it would be important to underscore the obvious veracity to all of this for others to attempt to comprehend.
Thanks for the fake update.
Intel about to get reamed hard.