Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

Radio Silence

Given that we laid upwards of 2,500 people off last week, I find it interesting that this layoff has received zero press, including all of the industry and tech blogs.

Lowell and/or Stratton have yet to address this. Normally we'd see something on VZWeb about "a tough time and/or transition period."

Instead, nothing. Radio silence.

What that leaves in its wake is the entire workforce hanging in the balance.

What a horrid feeling not knowing, week-to-week, whether the jobs we've worked so hard for will remain.

Any (serious, non-conjecture) opinions as to "what's next?" Thank you!

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Post ID: @OP+MOoR59u

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Never heard a peep when 8000 were let go Dec 31 2015 either ....too big to touch and too spread out they fly under the radar

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Post ID: @3hhl+MOoR59u

The WARN Act is not activated when the closing or a layoff results is fewer than 50 employees at a single location. So a store would not lose that many people. There may be multiple stores but WARN is based on a single location. If a location has between 50 to 499 workers and the laid off number is less than 33 percent of an employer’s total active workforce at a single location, WARN is also not activated.

A company also doesn't have to activate WARN when the closing or layoff is caused by business circumstances that were not reasonably foreseeable and things like not making earnings and are in debt can easily fall under that reason. Wireless not meeting quarterly results by over 60% is a perfect example.

When creating the Affinity location, it all depends on how many were reporting to a particular building if WARN would be activated and the above rules apply.

So that is why WARN does not need to be activated like many seem to think. Being an uninformed employee is a dangerous thing and you cannot expect your employer to spoonfeed you this info, it is up to each individual to learn labor laws.

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Post ID: @bzo+MOoR59u

@MOoR59u-dub don't make excuses for those who expect to be handed answers versus seeking the information. This has nothing to do with their personal situation. Try again.

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Post ID: @iru+MOoR59u

Verizon is clever enough to keep negative things out of the press. I know, I worked there for almost 25 years. Also, @MOoR59u-yjg, calling people lazy is harsh and rude. You don't know everyone's personal situations.

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Post ID: @dub+MOoR59u

WARN Act is a United States labor law which protects employees, their families, by requiring most employers with 100 or more employees to provide 60 calendar-day advance notification of plant closings and mass layoffs of employees

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Post ID: @bes+MOoR59u

It is called strategic RIFs, the location and number of affected employees must be below the treshold to triggered the state laws public announcement, since they are really good in covering discrimination based on age to get rid of vested employees

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Post ID: @zfq+MOoR59u

2015 the only time they posted something like that. There have been many huge rifs over the years so 2015 has nothing on prior years. We have seen VP's and their entire organizations wiped from payroll and not a peep. That was simply posted because it impacted wireless for the first time and many were freaking out so the company posted to rub people on the back. We wireline folks know better.

And before we see another WARN post, understand how it works and why WARN is not always filed every time there is a rif. If you do not know or investigate why then there is the reason why you were let go; pure laziness. There are specific rules and no they do not require to give you 60 days as many seem to think. Verizon does not violate the WARN Act and their package offering is pretty tight and have plenty of bored attorneys on their payroll to back it up.

There are no rules that says they have to offer a package as many other companies don't. We already see that the rules have been changed on the package offering. Those that left in 2003 with that 6 and 6 walked away fat and happy, and company vowed never to repeat again and they haven't. We already saw how they ripped the pension from under management years ago when we merged with MCI. The key was that they did not want to offer pensions to MCI folks so they took it away from all management below a director. Yes director and above still have their pensions.

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Post ID: @yjg+MOoR59u

Why should they care? Business is business

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Post ID: @dru+MOoR59u

Well Go90 updated their app. Now that's news.

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Post ID: @abg+MOoR59u

Press??? In 2015 they had 2 Rifs that let go of 6-8K people and pawned it off under the restructure to 3 fields from 4 areas and just finished closing the 5 call centers in Q1 2017 again around 5K or more impacting and not a peep out there to anyone. I feel bad that some people don't pay attention or think they are ever going to be impacted. In past 2 years its been Mktg, IT, Cust Service, and some sales folks in different levels.(Retail, WBG)... Seems to me only the B2B sales teams not impacted yet so would think they would be up next. Lots of dead weight there....

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