The jobs are coming back! hb1 policy review is a good start! Every bit counts to make our manufacturing America Great Again!
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A corrupt organization has to create a mask to make it seem things are working, when they arn't. And when it goes wrong, it's always the fault of an American (!). We can apply that to many things but Honeywell takes it to the max.
The model is no Hon workers in supply chain. Convert entire facilities to contract manufacturing - Toronto, Tucson, next? Hon and most large companies hate benefits and severance. Maybe they get there some day.
Most of the India workers I worked with - a lot of them in IT, purchasing, customer service -were nice people and willing to work but were given tasks to do without one ounce of training that senior people had learned over years of work at Honeywell. Hon just turned the switch. No process knowledge. Hardly ever do you hear an Indian person say they couldn't do anything, speed is not the problem, it is the accuracy. Lots of mistakes made and some Americans had to stay around to do mop up. And like someone said - all credit has to go to the Indians, because otherwise that would mean the plan wasn't working.
If you really believe this is going to bring back jobs, I have a bridge I can sell you.
@MSqexL0-bvo makes a good point around the middle-man...wouldn't be surprised to see 'temp workers' or contract labor become more and more prevalent. The other path the whole labor chain may move as visa's lock down is to just set up shell companies in LCR's and then farm them the work, sort of like what was done with the india group. this will get past the need for some of the visas anyways.
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I agree with nothing is changing over H1-B's with this action.
However, I say total B.S. on the rest of what you said, especially regarding Honeywell. A few years ago I was a contractor and was specifically gotten rid of to be replaced by 2 Indians, and was told so, even though my manager didn't want to, and genuinely felt bad about it. The ALT in Phoenix purposefully targeted me for elimination because they wanted no Americans to work on the project that weren't direct hires. I heard my manager (his office was next to mine) have arguments with Phoenix management for weeks trying to fight to keep me but he lost the battle. Hey at least he gave me a 3 week notice my job was over, a luxury compared to the 2 days notice I got the last time I contracted there. I'm sure the ALT got a jolly out of getting rid of an American worker in this fashion and would do it again every chance they get.
Two years later, then when that project was mostly over except the final steps, it was GIVEN to Bangalore to "finish". They didn't deserve it, and it still took them way longer than it should have, since it was almost done, and HON personnel had to be retained & hold their hands (read: do their work for them) to give Bangalore credit for "doing the project". The project was years late and loyal old customers were hung out to dry. Great job ALT!
I think the other OP post about the "5 year plan" is more accurate than anyone may think. Not conspiracy theory from that poster. My opinion, of course.
Nothing has changed with the H1-B program, it's just being reviewed. Nothing major will come of the review. It's fewer than 100,000 jobs, and someone can only work on an H1-B visa for six years (two three year periods). I've generated a handful of H1-B visa applications, and it includes verifying that the foreign worker is paid at least the average salary for the position, using the government's salary data. American's wages are not impacted by the visa program and it's so much work and money that no one hires foreigners if there are Americans available for the jobs.
Let's repeat the Republican mantra: "A minimum wage kills jobs".
Repeat.
Work is not coming back unless the American worker is willing to do that same work for the same salary and I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Work will go offshore where it can and where it can't, get used to having minimum wage.
I have read on other threads that Kenya is now the target of off-shoring tech jobs.
Figures that Africa will be the final cheap labor pool until all the multi-nationals implode from lack of investment.
How does this impact Honeywell? How does this impact any type of work that can be done through the cloud? Instead of bringing workers to the US, companies will just get better at having work done overseas. If need be they will send US workers overseas to train and oversee them.
So as the US tries to isolate itself from the rest of the world, the world will continue and some other country will jump in to fill the void.
You are giving it credit before we know the details. I'd bet there's loopholes and comes up short, but as OP said, perhaps a start.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/donald-trump-likely-to-issue-executive-order-to-limit-h1-b-visas/articleshow/56884575.cms
Don't forget about the L1 visas, which is likely what Honeywell and other globalized multi-nationals with foreign labor pools are extensively using, and they arn't affected.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-03/new-h-1b-guidelines-crack-down-on-computer-programmer-jobs
"The guidelines issued Friday refer specifically to entry-level computer programmers, which the U.S. Department of Labor defines as those who write and test code to allow computer applications and software to work properly.
“This is not a change in policy on H-1B and H-1B1 eligibility in computer-related fields,”"
Today: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-17/h-1b-applications-drop-as-u-s-employers-anticipate-reforms
After reading that last article, it makes one wonder if now those major outsourcing firms will be hiring Americans, going full-circle, paying them less with little or no benefits or long-term financial gain for retirement? So why have a middle-man anyway? As long as U.S. corps are allowed to manipulate the taxation system they'll be able to keep the shell-game churn going, paying less taxes to boot.
Greedy CEO's finally lose one.