Thoughts?
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Which area of Oracle are you guys working in to think that everything is going to be shut down? Can you tell us your location and which product you work on to prove who you are?
How many people does it take to support the legacy long term contracts? Cut that number on halft and that's what oracle will keep.
If Oracle, "...moves out of the direct hardware sales business...", who will take care of legacy hardware systems business with long term contacts, some of which may be big private and government customers/contracts and quite lucrative, if not in absolute dollar amounts but in margins (service, support, upgrades and maintenance).
However, is this legacy business big enough to continue to invest in sparc cpu chip design and hardware systems (designing cpu chips and hardware systems for small volumes is very expensive, both in time and money) ?
That's the question, which LE, MH and JF need to answer and possibly quite soon, if not by June 1st but no later than end of CY2017.
I've been checking this board for a whole year, and can tell you that all the "pure nonsense" posts gets buried by other posters and/or site admins. FYI, all the companies you mentioned (and some other, "more successful") have their own boards here as well, all of them active pretty much. In fact, the rumors about huge layoffs which Cisco had in last August (they RIF-ed about 7000 people) started on their board on this site about two weeks before they actually happened.
HPE, IBM, Cisco, Dell ... boring, commodity crap no one cares about.
That's right. The server market is worth USD $50 Billion in yearly revenue. Nobody cares about making USD $50 Billion selling servers. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
this site is such a scam! What b---s---!
Why are you reading it then?
this site is such a scam! What b---s---! What a great way for competitors to say whatever they want and spew just pure nonsense. Why is everyone trying to take down Oracle? Because when you’re a leader, everyone wants to take you out. Where are the bashers talking sh-- about Microsoft or HPE, IBM, Cisco, Dell? yep exactly. why? they are all boring, commodity crap no one cares about.
I agree the future for cloud HW will be ARM64 based. If Intel is in deep trouble, imagine who will buy SPARC.
The engineered Systems, Exadata and private cloud are just intrim solution for transitioning to public cloud. The problem with running your own private cloud is that you still have to maintain the hardware, data center and software updates. But in Amazon AWS, you can setup a VPC (virtual private cloud) with router, internet gateway, security and database all running in 30 minutes with $0 start up cost! What's the point to run Engineered systems private cloud?
Aargh. Every time I see a completely irrelevant sh-- post by this "progressive bowel movement" guy I'm so pissed. Not because of what he writes or how he writes them. But why the f*** is that relevant in a post talking about oracle hardware?
Here are people worried about losing their jobs and insurance, and you want to rant about HRC or Obama or whoever. Why don't you shut up unless you have something to say about Oracle.
Oracle never built a hardware business. They took Sun's dwindling hardware business
and ran it into the ground.
In 2014FY, Oracle's hardware business market share fell below Cisco's UCS.
In 2016FY, there was negative growth in Oracle's hardware business. Hardware revenue
fell by 12% year-over-year.
Oracle's hardware business no longer registers on any charts. It is bundled together
within the "Others" category.
In 2016Q2 hardware revenue was USD $497 million on product sales and USD $517
million for customer support. This shows that revenue from support and maintenance
of existing legacy hardware is higher than revenue from sales of new hardware. In
other words: new hardware doesn't sell.
There is no market for Solaris or SPARC. The server market has settled on Intel X86_64
and ARM64 on the hardware side, Windows and Linux on the software side. Not just
for general-purpose computing, but for high-performance computing as well. Fujitsu
was the last HPC manufacturer to use SPARC. They announced in 2016 that their next
K-class supercomputer will be running on ARM64, not SPARC.
Read yesterday's announcement from Microsoft. Windows Server 2016 now runs on
ARM64. According to Microsoft's plans of record in the announcement, more than
50% of its Azure Cloud servers will be running on ARM64 hardware.
Where is the market that Oracle is supposedly trying to compete with Solaris and SPARC.
Oracle HW is a sinking ship and everyone knows it. They will likely keep some x86 and SPARC servers for their cloud so that customers have the option to choose. Believe it or lot there is a small market for SPARC. Oracle will not need many people to sustain it though. Get out while you can! Another reorg in June. Prepare yourselves.
I partially agree. Oracle will concentrates on selling Engineered Systems. All Engineered Systems are Oracle Cloud capable (see latest Engineered Systems releases).
They most likely will stop selling standalone servers but keep selling Engineered Systems so customers can get connected or fully move to Oracle Cloud offerings more easily.
Btw. most cloud companies use their own designed/ modified servers to run the clouds. So even though Oracle is moving to the Cloud, it will keep the hardware business as they need it to run the Cloud and they can customize the systems to their needs.
in the cloud you dont sell hardware. But you do devleop it to make your cloud better than the competition.So its a yes and no. Oracle will move out of the direct hardware sales business but will focus on developing its hardware for cloud.