Since the start of 2017, at my site, engineers have been resigning at a rate of about one each week. We now have 17 job postings open. There are more resignations to come too. The loss of experience is very damaging in a very specialized market that is core to Honeywell's IoT strategy.
Anyone else seeing a similar pattern?
I wonder when the snowball effect starts when folks leave because other folks have left.
OP here.....another week and another resignation. For a company that says it wants to be a "software industrial", you would think they would do a better job of retaining software engineers, but apparently not!
By the end of the year a lot more people will leave. Soon reality will slap top management in the face really hard. Eventually people will say f it and go somewhere else. Some do it faster and some slower but at the end of the day enough will be enough.
All I can say is "So long and thanks for all the fIsh."
HOS is a disaster. Micro management through Agile & cheap work stations. The environment is noisy, invasive and counter productive. I have seen a handful of young US engineers leave over the last 6 months only to be replaced Chinese and Indian engineers. Dave Cote's legacy.
Resignations at Redmond? Then they should have had room for the WFH people that I heard they turned away from that site. Puts a whole new spin on the WFH situation - no room at the inn so retire, resign or otherwise get out - when there actually was room? Makes the WFH debacle look like a workforce reduction play.
We've had lots of resignations in the Redmond site. Most happened around the RIF and are still going on. Of course management isn't approving new hires.
I have not had a skip level meeting in over 10 years. They apparently do not want feedback on their managers and MANY need it desparately. I talked to our director and HR about it 3 years ago and they said it would be fixed......absolutely nothing has occured....shame on you. I consider that telling a lie....period. II hear the same types of stories from many other sites.....bad managers are the number one reason people leave. If HW is not going to listen to bottom up communication...then they and their managers are doomed . And yes, everyone I know is either planning for retiirement or looking for another job...the job market is great in Phoenix.
VP of resignations LMAO!!!!!! Love it!! That's about all we are missing in this top heavy mess.
Looks like we need new VP for resignations
Folks, i see everything you are saying everyday. No accountability anymore, it is managed Chaos at best. Teh best have left, the good are leaving and they are deperately trying to stop the bleeding now. But who is really to blame, that is Mahoney. He has his favorites and he can't see their faults. Bob Smith and Carl Espsito running a business? WTF? Mike Madsen runnign ISC. We have not improved in delivery or quality since he took over, as a matterof fact we have gotten worse and customers see it. Mass exodus form ISC, the only people who know the processes and understand where the holes are and how to get the roadblocks removed have been fired or have left becuase of Mike Madsen. They promote based on politics not skill. No one looks for experienc inside Honeywell. When was the last time you saw them hire/promote someone based on skill or experience? You ever see a Site R&O leadr who has ever run and R&O shop before? You ever see a Site Manager that has ever run an organization before? No, beciase Honeywell use these roles as stepping stones, career advancement roles, not roles that need to be filled by qualified experienced people like other cpompanies do. They only promote yes men and women but not the ones who will fix the problems, only the ones who will mask it and keep any issues out or sight.
Growth is their mantra now, so they hite outside sale people who knwo nothignof the internal roadbloack to get growth moving. They do't lok at what was preventing us from performing, they look at trying new things rather than the age old proven techniques. People will grow the business, include them in the decison making, reward them and they will be proud of the work they do,
Honeywell is not an honest broker. They do not base decisins on facts but rather on wants and desires. planning go gets with no idea how to get their. Banking on wins that have the lowest probability of win, but the highest return if they do.
It is all a metrics game, both wiht product and with people. Wehn you wwant to reward someone for actulaly contributing to growth, functional have the final approval and deny rewards that other feel are well earned and the basis for future growth.
Heard that Corporate HR is coming to Phoenix to find out what is wrong at Aerospace - any truth to this?
Honeywells a sinking ship. When you have companies like Raytheon holding massive hiring events every month, throwing 25%+ raises and huge signing bonuses all while hiring over 2000 engineers.....there's zero reason to stay. I bolted after getting my MIP and gave a week notice, most of which I was on unlimited vacation for. I couldnt be happier. I know the close to 20 that have accepted offers and are just waiting for their security clearances to process can't wait to get here either.
Darius going medieval will only make things worse. Already we spend too much time in meetings held by program managers trying to firm up their meager resources. Nobody is feeling good about the quality of their work, given expectations for output. Stress related illnesses are on the rise. We're on the wrong side of the productivity curve for bully tactics to do anything but stick a fork in what's left of Honeywell.
It's everywhere - ISC, Engineering, Legal, Marketing, HR, Finance, IT. Losing critical skills sets and people who know how to get work done. HON will miss numbers due to brain drain, and @1efe is correct - Darius will be ruthless.
Seeing exits in Marketing and Enginnering and IT in all areas of the company. Some are retirements and would happen anyways but some are early retirements because of stress and low job satisfaction
Goals are no longer just "a stretch" they are impossible so just better to close this page of their careers and move on
If Q1 ends with poor results expect Darius to be ruthless so we don't miss the streets expectations once he is in charge starting April 3rd
Everyone wake up and spell the coffee, leave
If you can!!!!
1zkg You are so right. My father started at Airesearch in the early 50s me the mid 70s. People would beg to get almost any job at Airesearch/Garrett. Very common for several family members to be employed there and as you noted also different generations. Saw this time and time again It was a fantastic place to work. Not just excellent pay & benefits but there was always great opportunities for career advancement. I saw an hourly employee rise to company president in less than 20 years! Now it would seem not so much. So glad I worked and retired there when I did.
They spend time and money on really useless stuff like HUE, how does that help the bottom line.
IT internal security spent $150,000 on beautifying an internal website,only used by internal security.....what's the point and a waste of money.
Several different root and contributing causes to this: HOS is cumbersome operating system,unrealistic goals/metrics forced onto sites and Aerospace Leadership unwilling to help sites. Everyone is leaving Honeywell and the only one left will be brown nosing VPs and Directors, will they help deliver to the customer?
It's like the fall of the Roman Empire. It used to be a great place to work. It was a strong working machine that everyone was proud to be a part of. People would stay for years, you would see births, weddings, funerals and friendships that last a lifetime being forged & as people's children would grow into adults they would join into the Honeywell family. When you told outsiders where you worked they even were impressed, that's the kind of reputation it had. So, what happened to it? Was it Allied taking over? Corporate greed? Management that didn't have a clue & whose only purpose was to get that bonus at any cost? Do the stock holders know or even care? I blame the higher ups that have enforced the path Honeywell is on is & those that don't have the courage to right this ship & to do the right thing. It may be too late now, Honeywell may be too far gone at this point. Unless someone comes in, takes over & changes the landscape it will sink. It saddens me that not only do the workers have to suffer through but critical programs that are important to our country are also feeling the affects of the failure of our company. Good bye & RIP Honeywell, you were great, once upon a time.
Seeing this everywhere, worldwide. It is impacting ability to ship at many sites. Customers take notice... honeywell laid off the staff needed to deliver to you on time. Dig deeper than 'its a supplier problem' more like honeywell doesnt have staff to pay the bills on time problem.
I think the problem is widespread. The combination of retirements, layoffs, people escaping voluntarily, people being "volunteered" to go fill gaps left by the layoffs, retirements and voluntary exit, the team I am assigned to is short handed of skilled talent and in a constant state of work overload. The teams we interface with also have the same problem. At the same time, the seemingly tone deaf executive management is pulling schedules in to the left in an attempt to generate revenue in 2017. More work gets added daily, and we don't even have enough time or skilled manpower to complete what is currently assigned. When we need more people, the answer is always, we can get people from India, and in most instances, they are not experienced on the product. So it is a constant mentoring of new people, who usuall get pulled off to work other projects once they are up to speed. And lets not forget, the constant threat of mandatory unpaid overtime if we fail to meet the unrealistic schedules. Personally, I have given up on trying to meet the unrealistic schedules and work load. I work 8 hours, then drop my tools and go home. I don't want to be that guy that dies at age 50 of a heart attack in the lab late at night while trying to meet schedule so some exec can get his bonus.
Started at Engines last year, in January, many traceable to Madsen. In 37 years I never saw so many people leave in a single year, lots with valuable experience. Continuing, but at a somewhat lower rate this year.
Yup, no amount of HOS will capture the 70+ years of engineering experience that we've lost this year.
The powers to be have been banking on HOS to capture the tribal knowledge of the experienced people who actually know how to run the businesses. It is absolutely the most naïve and ridiculous thing I have seen in many decades of working for various companies. I agree that Honeywell on the cusp of a rapid and dramatic downfall, and the combined arrogance and stupidity of "leadership" is totally to blame.
Same at our site! So many people leaving. It is starting to cripple us. We seem to have hit the tipping point that turned into exactly what you said, a snowball.
The crazy part is that senior managers can't seem to figure out why so many people are leaving. It isn't weak ones we are losing either. Tough times are coming for those who stick around.