Get ready for the big'un. New leader needs a new org. Managers and PSS should be polishing their CVs about now as the axe falls.
Reviews and mental notes being made ready for Q4.
Good luck.
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Last time they LR pregnant woman in UK arch.
This time they will throw a glorious layoff party with pineapple on pizzas and nothing but Bud Light. Only the most vulnerable or valuable will leave.
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That's a good point. If I were SG I would get all my direct reports in one room and ask them to articulate their 1,3&5 year vision for their op, without pre-warning or prep. I reckon that there is only one person who could do it from all of them.
None of them care anymore and are happy to ride their gravy train for as long as it lasts. All of them are wealthy enough now to retire comfortably, so why do they care if the business is down the toilet in 5 years? Better now to play political games to keep your seat for as long as you can.
3rd issue is clearly there are many illiterate people working at Cisco based on the last post.
Although it is poorly written, it does make some good points. Cisco had a great product in UCS but was slow to react to Hyperconverged and is now paying the price. ACI is a joke and I feel sorry for whoever is the first big company to go "All In" on it, as it has so many issues. But putting the products aside for a moment, Cisco is actually a sales oriented business. It's sold many products in the past that didn't have the companies full backing. I still believe the management need to take the burden of blame here. DC offers the greatest opportunity out of any segment in IT and is predicted to continue growing despite the move to cloud. The issue is where to focus and that's what leaders are meant to define. Unfortunately there are no leaders in that org and half of the senior managers are so clueless of what is going on in their segment, it would be pointless if they did have any views.
My recommendation would be to sack the lot based on performance and hire in a team from VCE, VM Ware and HPE to run the org. People who know the DC segment and know where to focus.
2 issue in dc team.
1) UCS hasnt innovated in years and ACI is too complacated. Software excution is bad. Everyone given huge targets to sell ancient tech but told to 'do agile'. Teh few that learn it do so and leave for companys that get it
2) Leedership is useless. Gonna be 3 years with out doing there number! Constant excuzes and 'we will fix this i promise' bollocks. That has to rest at the top - either hte number is unacheevable or the strategy is wrong. Either way the team is shafted
Lets face it, hyperflex is a joke, aci pointless in cloud world, ucs looking old and all the softwrae just crap! Why would anyone be happy after it was all gravy their before this point!?!?!?!
@Sparky - some of the SE Managers in Ireland should be moved on too. Jobs for the boys club is thriving in Galway and needs urgent and drastic remedial action. Don't believe morale can sink any lower at this stage and too many people hanging on for a LR payoff, myself included, though i am looking elsewhere as my sanity may not last until August or whenever
what are the issues in The DC team people are going on about? Leaking SEs due to lack of career DEV but no one looking at the se managers and saying perhaps they need to be changed and quickly????????!!!??!!!!
If u r being promised a promo in architectures then be warned, it ain't gonna happenn... u are being misled by the management. More chance of being laid off vs a promotion.
Forget Dublin. Kensington is the place to be when you drive a Porsche and are a director about to cull the remains of an aging old world org..
@Mr Fish you're way off LOL!!!
JM is a fine example of how Cisco UK doesn't weed out the weak but instead keeps promoting those in the "club". Don't get me wrong, he's a nice guy to have a beer with but he failed on BT, has failed running the DC team, so I guess he'll now be given another senior role somewhere he can fail at again. A loser is a loser and it's time Cisco woke up to this concept across its entire leadership team.
@7oal, are you French perchance?
Any scandals from the Dublin jolly? Great party town although i hear Galway on the West coast is better.
@mr chips are u enjoying the fine ales in Dublin? Wot is da master plan?
You're a poet and you don't even know it...Bravo!!
Christ you lot are in captivity of negativity!!
Yeah, useless commentary. More importantly matters - wots latest wid da wicked witch???? More spreadsheets anyone???? Or is it shoppin and lunchin around high street ken and livin it large on company taxi service... too Royal to get on a chop chop train.
Well bet you are the life and soul of the party! Good comment. Very constructive!
UK and the island monkeys that squat in it is rapidly becoming a toxic dump; Brexit and all the other mess causes them to blindly lash out - complete the literacy skills and rage their delapidated little society churns out.
It's not Cisco UK that's broken. It's the whole place.
I have to say, if I was an EVP in sales, or an SVP in EMEAR, reading some recent threads on here I'd be asking "WTF is happening in UK&I?".
It used to be seen as a bellwether for Europe, now it sounds like a toxic-waste dumping ground.
Can it be turned around? Is a certain Southern European VP going to step in and save the day?
Toxic managers is issue with dc team not the leader and that's a fact. All are bitter and twisted they did not get job esp anyone with a number plate that says BJB!!! I mean camp or what! Same issue all round uk . Ask any sem and they still squirm at not being in Sed role. Lol cap chasers.
What's latest with the new fanfare commercial c team ? I mean who the heck would want to lead the c team! Lmao.
the whole dc team hate each other!
more politics than game of thrones that lot. no surprise to see them on hre sniping at eachother. The alternative is to go sell something and that wont do!
how long since the dc team did its number?
I don't think it would surprise anyone if it's true about JM going, in fact most people are surprised he has lasted so long considering he has added very little apart from help kill enthusiasm and moral, ruining what was a great team...we all know he had big shoes to fill but his tiny feet didn't even come close...he lacks leadership, and no one in his team respects him...you only have to look around the room during our team events when he's speaking and most people are either rolling their eyes or lifting their eyebrows at him!!
This QTR or next it is already confirmed and written on the walls on Bedfont and scratched into the coffe tables on the third floor. Arch team that you see and love so much today will be WAYYYYY different and guaranteed to be smaller with what are the last standing weakest of the weak pss managers (none of them are real RSMs) and pss's that need an SE or two at the side for anything remotely technical. Bonkers.
Heard JM is going, due to his horrid performance since taking over the position plus his old pal AC has left the building. Maybe AB will give him a role in his collaboration team, selling that sh1te spark stuff.
Someone ITK has told me it's all been drawn up already, the hope is most will leave before 'hard conversations' need to happen.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
W.C.
When is it Ireland's turn?
All this refuting means the truth is out and the OP has let the wriggly cat out of the witches bag. Drink Guinness next week n b appy.
Sounds like some of the UK Management team getting a bit cranky on here. I wonder what these charming ladies and gentlemen the are like to work under if they get so defensive and riled up on an anonymous forum!
Well guys if you're not happy you have two feet and can use them. Fairly straight forward. 0800 double 0 who gives a sh--. No moaning just get on with it.
s/there turn/their turn/
It may be better outside Cisco but all-nighters still occur!
Those moaning / trolling etc should also consider what the company has given them and allowed them to do. Stinks of someone who hasn't worked anywhere else and is ranting like an ungrateful child.
We were allowed to do more with less by traveling back millennia to a time before functional decomposition, refactoring (even horse drawn wagons were built with interchangeable wheels - figure it out!), writing, reading and other basic engineering skills were common. We know the quality metrics and we have worked with far more effective teams at other companies. We're here to help those who might be recycled into useful engineers to know that a better life is there to be found after a layoff. The rest will simply be surprised when it's there turn and they'll come here to announce that Cisco is having layoffs for the first time because even after they receive their notice and with all the posts here to be read to contradict that claim they'll remain that detached from reality. It's a talent, but not a useful one.
Come on mr chips get wid program sista. The truth hurt in da googlies. Axe is coming hardcore for those not bowing when the wicked witch enters da room.
1eab is right. Those moaning / trolling etc should also consider what the company has given them and allowed them to do. Stinks of someone who hasn't worked anywhere else and is ranting like an ungrateful child.
@1eab If you have left or been let go, then GO. What are you doing lurking around here???????!!!!! Cha.
This is people's livelihoods here! As a recent Cisco leaver reading some of the comments here make me glad I've left! Working with you miserable folk who have nothing to add but personal attacks because you're not quite smart enough to achieve anything yourself.
Disgraceful.
Just checking my browser as I thought that I was on the daily mail site. Seriously what a load of horse sh--!!
What is the Dublin treaty? Code word for LR? Will Partner org finally be hit as well? How bout the aging pub sec team? Load of old timers there to save some OPEX!!