Thread regarding Humana Inc. layoffs

My guess is the OP was not referring to posts about frustration, fear and unease of job loss but rather those that only find the negative no matter what. There have been many such posts. For all we know it could be the same person posting each time.

There have been numerous posts in which someone has offered educated thought out responses only to be told they must be MF because only he would support a company that is pure evil. Apparently he is Satan and has destroyed HAH. Those comments always make me laugh.

We are at our best when we are sharing the info that we have. I can't begin to express my appreciation for the one poster who warned us of the last layoff. I was braced and handled my layoff better knowing it was coming. I actually sent out 10 resumes the night of the warning to be prepared.

Some of the knee jerk reactions and over the top predictions don't help. Please don't tell us the entire department is folding unless you know. Don't speculate without some facts and education. So far only about 10% of speculation has come to light. We all knew there would be a 2nd round of layoffs when no one would give a straight answer. This time they are all saying no more layoffs in 2017. 2018 will be a new ball game with a few curve balls I'm sure. I am kind of glad I don't have to guess the pitches any more! I am going to enjoy my summer!

To the OP, I hope that you can escape from whoever is forcing you to navigate to this website and then making you read all the comments. Please be safe!

Im also a little saddened to find out that a website devoted to people losing their jobs (thelayoff.com) would have any type of negativity or frustration. It's just upsetting! I would expect that from a site called strictlynegative.com or alwaysnegative.com but not on thelayoff.com. Have you considered writing a letter to those who were laid off, who expressed their frustration on thelayoff.com that you did not approve of their response?

For the record your guest monk was correct and his advice was beneficial. You can choose to react to a bad situation positively or negatively. A bad situation is a bad situation. You cannot spin that. What you are seeing is many people in a bad situation. Trying to spin a bad situation as if it is a good situation is being willfully ignorant to reality and a form of escapism.

If someone in my family were in an abusive relationship. I would not say "be positive, at least you have someone" I would be very negative and say "if you don't leave, they will kill you!"

Let people vent, give them that. Allow them to have that. If you dont like it, then do as your memorable monk and don't let their expressions change you.

I love you guys - this is a good thread, a good discussion from both angles.

“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!”

Love. Peace.

Be kind to people!

I do agree that calling someone a troll is uncalled for. As are some other comments, one person saying the laid off workers need to get over it, for example, comes to mind. But those comments are the exception, not the norm for most on this site.

Anonymous sites are easy on here places to lose a sense of civil discourse, unfortunately it is not exclusive to this site - that does not make it right, of course.

I treat unhelpful comments the same way I deal with members who yell at me about too many calls from Humana - I let it go, roll off of me. That's just me, of course.

No, not super sensitive...I think she was insulted and hurt that she was attacked in this forum....either way, there's some good info shared here, we are in such silos with our roles, I appreciate the posts

"There are some posters who are angry." Yes, you are correct. And there are some posters who are supportive. There are some posters who have some pretty good info to share (do you remember just before the 2nd round, a poster told everyone to brace themselves, another round was coming soon?).

You are going to see every type of reaction to stress on this site possible. Calling someone a troll without reason is wrong, I agree, but so is telling someone they should only react positively to all this stress, without expressing frustration. I'm not saying your friend did that, just saying there are going to be all sorts of posters on this or on any site, and you are going to see a wide range of reactions to posts, right or wrong, whether we agree or disagree, this is online discourse.

Wow she is super sensitive

My friend tried to post something positive, a different point of view and she was accused of being a troll, being in management and MF, she is off the site now, while good info is exchanged, there are some posters that are angry if you don't agree with them or their view

This website offers information that most associates are not hearing from their coaches. We are not allowed to vent at work; no negative comments. I agree with the many posters that it is not so much about negativity, but about gathering information. If someone has sour grapes, they should be allowed to post them. If you have a positive story, tell that too. Please don't try to squelch what others are thinking and saying. Some of our roles are not in question, and I, as a RN, support those that are not sure about "feeding their family, paying their rent or mortgage, making their car payment." This site can give them knowledge, or encouragement or a nudge to make the next move.

Since when is reality or acknowledging facts considered negative? Your opinion and "story" isn't very captivating ✌️

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”

I am one to react to these changes in my usual cautious manner - I have kids to feed, so I have updated my resume, I am actively searching, but I am not panicking.

That said, I feel for those who are more anxious, and I'm happy for those who can take it all in stride - basically, whatever your reaction is, and however you cope to get through this, I don't judge or condemn you for it.

This is a stressful time and we all have our ways of coping. If you need to vent, vent! If you need to stay cheery to get through this, do so! If you feel stifled by the push at Humana to keep quiet and drink the kool aid, then speak freely here. If humor helps, use humor! Everyone is different.

@1nyo - thank you - yes, venting here helps me.

I get what the first poster is trying to say - you create the world in your head, everything around tries to influence you - that's fine...

yet, we are not monks, we are nurses, administrators, trainers, etc. - we need to earn money to survive and things rapidly become much more difficult when you are so dependent on this income...

finally, humans like 'justice' - it's just a human thing (present in all primates) - and we have a few players here who are rigging the game so bad that there is no justice at all - i refuse to be silent and will continue to point that out on this site - it did give me a voice and there is a few of us who are here all the time and we contribute good and useful information and insight.

all the best!

I totally get the original poster and agree! I appreciate this site for the insight and support but the negativity from some is almost too much. Study after study has proven negativity breeds negativity. Expressing your negative emotions has been proven to not be helpful or healing. The more we focus on the negative, our brains rewire to only see negative. Our moods get heavier, our outlook more dismal. We become less happy overall in our lives, not just in the segment that originally brought displeasure, but in all aspects.

For the most part I just skip over the complaining, the sky is falling and the hatred of our leaders. I pick through to find real information and encouragement. Before I get piled on by those only happy when putting down others, no, I'm not looking for false hope or sunshine and roses. I can accept the reality of possible job loss. However, I don't need to be smothered with doom and gloom. It is only harming all of us.

For those who are completely miserable with Humana, your path is showing you it's time for new challenges.

I see your point but this site allows us to do something Humana coaches won't allow.., having a voice. Being able to vent- and in turn support each other's expressed concerns, frustration, etc. I've found it to be more informative than the company, scary accurate, and a safe place to talk. I don't think negative is the word to use, more like therapeutic 😊

Lol

I certainly do not feel comforted by a lecturing monk. I do not need a lecture....just like our members usually do not respond well to lectures.

You're entitled to your opinion just as much as these associates commenting on this website are entitled to their opinion. Thank you have a great day!

That same monk would say you are in your ego right now - telling others how to feel. While positivity is certainly a wonderful tool for living a good life, expressing emotions freely is also part of what it means to be a healthy adult and having an array of emotions is part of being human. For the most part, this site is a place for people to feel understood, heard, express fear and sorrow and feel less alone. And in my opinion, in a world where it is "normal" corporate culture to discourage humans from being human, I think having a place where they can be is not only positive but necessary.

If people are posting on this site to express that they are nervous about their job situation, or frustrated with communication, or feeling like they are in the dark, after seeing colleague after colleague let go over a short and recent span of time, I'm not sure they deserve to be called negative. Maybe it's okay to let them vent. Maybe it's even okay to show them some support. Maybe we dont need to tell them how to express themselves during such a tough situation.

I understand- you are just trying to help or provide another perspective - but it just doesn't seem right to tell others how to react.

There are some things you should not accept... like abuse, and fraud. If the color of your room makes you anxious, paint it.... if you need support it.

That's great! I would also point out that many - not all but many - posters who are supportive of one another, assuring others that they are not alone if they are having a hard time, some are sharing positive experiences of their lives after Humana, many are here allowing others to vent because that can be healthy too, or simply asking for practical information or insight. I would be hesitant to dismiss the entire site as negative.