Thread regarding State Farm Insurance layoffs

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I just severed on April 28 after over 30 years. I'm old enough to take early retirement. I'll need another job but I simply could not face the call center atmosphere that even complex BI/suit claims are plugged into! I don't want to live at a hub.

I am still in shock that my experience and tenure was so undervalued that I could not have been kept on as a proximity employee or even a contract employee. The company has changed, and not for the better. Our best quality was our service, but that's going to be gone. The wave after me, the adjusters who will handle suits have an average of eighteen months with SF! In my wave, people who relocated are dropping like flies. It's so sad to see a great company make such foolish decisions.

I'm glad to leave, but I'll miss the people I'd worked with for decades. It was very hard to basically be told to relocate or leave!

I could NOT recommend working for SF in the "new world" where even going to relieve yourself is time counted against you! How can a complicated investigation or lawsuit possibly be handled under the new conditions? I am grieving for myself and for my career, and for the great company we used to be.

Repost from @G2iNT6q-7bvbv

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The company leadership has no clue to the realities of real life in the trenches handling of the claims. Everything posted here was not only true on the dates that they were posted, but it is even more so now.

I was once very proud to say that I worked for State Farm, Sadly, I now am ashamed to say that I work for State Farm and will not make 30 years to the company's delight. They will replace me with a younger, less qualified, less experienced, and less knowledgeable person at a great discounted wage. I am a 20 year employee and treated as all of the employees are now days - like a used tire. Get a little more tread off of it and toss it aside. I went to work for State Farm as one of the very few insurance companies that I would even consider working for because of State Farm's business ethics and company values. I would not even consider starting a career with State Farm now. This company is no better than any other 2 bit insurance company and not even close to the other major companies that at one time were the competition that we looked at behind us. Money has become the only focus and customer satisfaction has been thrown aside. Top executive and management bonuses seem to outweigh the overall well being of the company and the clients. Top execs have sold their soul and the company's life along with it. I have no doubt that the sweat shop claim handling mentality that has been forced down the employees throats will end with lawsuits and class action settlements due to the increased stress, anxiety, and mental health issues, not to mention the employees increased utilities from the forced work from home scenarios that are now in place to outlive the pandemic or from the straight flex time in lieu of paying time and a half over time. The company is wrong on so many levels.

Some companies have died from not changing enough, but State Farm will die from the drastic bad changes. People (clients and employees alike) don't forget how they are handled when it comes time to renewing. As an employee and as an insured I won't forget and other avenues will be traveled!

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Post ID: @kMhye+NdLWLtO

Absolutely get out-the jobs are plentiful and the high pay is unbelievable. Whoops, forgot about the 40 million unemployed looking for work right now.....

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Post ID: @ikbsy+NdLWLtO

Sorry you are better off not being in the endentured servitude environment. They will eventually go out if business treating people this way it will only overflow to their customer base.

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Post ID: @ikkao+NdLWLtO

All they did is look at tenure and $$$. No job performance was used - had 30% 3's and still shown the door!!

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Post ID: @gXhok+NdLWLtO

Nobody is entitled to a job. You have to continue to grow, develop skills, and enhance your value.

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Post ID: @gWjul+NdLWLtO

After 24 years of service, I was laid off by State Farm. They made the decision to drastically downsize their claims operation in California. The claims operation moved to other states where it is less expensive to do business. I was not mobile, so I was not given a job offer. This has been devastating. I thought that I would retire from State Farm, but they k–led my dream. I have been looking for a career job for the last 4 years. A job where the pay would be comparable to my income while employed by State Farm. The severance payment was taxed by 52%. State Farm does not realized they have negatively affected do may lives. I will there was a class action lawsuit against State Farm. I would definitely participate in it.

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Post ID: @gUbfr+NdLWLtO

30 plus years! I'm outta here. Crash and burn values and ethics.

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Post ID: @bwctj+NdLWLtO

Everyone wake up especially those still employed at State Farm, it is awful how they treat there employees, awful!!!!!!!!, but they don’t care, because wether you quit or they fire you , they’ll just replace you with another person with good work values just trying hard to make ends meet to support there families, the one who doesn’t have a good work ethic is State Farm, how shameful, the founder would have said, his values are gone from State Farm, everyone that has made a statement about State Farm hit the nail right in the head, it’s like your in prison, they have given there managers the guidelines to harass the employees that work in there teams or groups, what a horrific experience it was. GOD I forgive State Farm, but will never forget, Thank you GOD for taken me away from State Farm, I pray for the employees that choose to be there because they need a job, GOD let them know they have other choices in life!!

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Post ID: @bvnib+NdLWLtO

Yes we have become a claims factory, that is exactly what it feels like to work claims since we have become "Express", like we are working in a claims factory. But claims are not a product but policy holders are treated just like that, like they are a product to be pushed through the assembly line. They are not treated as people who have had an accident and need our help.

We are in many ways chained to our desk/phone. If you take too many "bathroom" breaks and for too long you will get questioned about it. Sometimes after a difficult call you need a breather, we don't get those. If we aren't at our desks pounding out the calls or tasks then we get called on it, supposedly being chained to our desks is helping the customers...it doesn't. It just makes us resentful of how badly we are treated by the customers and management.

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Post ID: @5ylqt+NdLWLtO

Poster: | Post ID: @NdLWLtO-50ntv. Knows what they are talking about. It takes years of experience to properly handle complex claims. I can’t imagine the cost benefit analysis doesn’t show an inexperienced claim rep can’t possible negotiate a good settlement on a complex BI claim. Why anyone would pay a premium for the service SF no longer provides is beyond me. The individual who compares SF to Catepillar doesn’t understand how a mutual company works. This is not a stock company that produces tangible equipment. In the past we know customers paid more to be insured with SF and they did that because of the hand holding the agent provided and the exceptional claims service. That is now gone and destroyed.

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Post ID: @5xkrc+NdLWLtO

I was also let go after 28 years with the company. I'm saddened that the company that raised me( I was 18 when I started), has totally forgotten about the work ethic & values that we were taught. I could say so much more but I won't because of the values they taught me.

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Post ID: @5xqlj+NdLWLtO

State Farm has been a darn good company to work for. If you worked in the insurance industry it was well known that State Farm had the most dedicated and properly trained employees, the tenure was unmatched in the industry and this was leveraged into decades of outstanding company performance. The philosophy was the strength came from the people who worked there, it was the force that separated us from the competition.

Every company has to manage expenses, nothing new there. The combined ratio for most of my 30+ year career was under 100. The company business model has never been to target the price conscious customers, but focused on a better customer experience. We utilize agents to convey that promise to our customers.

State Farm started to leave the business model that got them to the $96 billion financial powerhouse they are today. Slowly the key pieces that defined the State Farm customer experience began to disappear. This was largely due to senior leaders bringing in outside consulting companies which focused on handling claims in a "factory" like environment. This is fine for a certain percentage of minor claims however they applied the same processes and philosophies to the more complex claims as well. Gone was independent thinking in favor of consistency, even when it did not make sense.

When the company migrated to the "new model", which was also timed upon president Rust's departure, things completely went off the rails. They introduced the "EOM" philosophy and process became the driving forces for handling claims. They completely dismissed the technical and analytical side of the business, emphasis was now on daily team huddles covering mostly pointless metrics. Promotions were no longer based on performance, claim skills and knowledge but how much you supported the EOM process. The claim handling talent was getting watered down at an alarming rate. Senior leaders became hell bent on designing a system to measure performance in what is largely a cerebral job. Claim skills degraded as performance conversations revolved around how long someone took on a call and how many tasks they handled in a day, not whether they did them right. What was once a career job where your learned skills and performance allowed you to rise through the ranks was largely replaced with untrained, low paid call center workers. As the more skilled workers retired or left they were not replaced, instead the remaining workers were asked to do more. Staffing models were incorrectly calculated and as a result workloads skyrocketed. Overtime became a business plan, at nearly every meeting the mantra was do more with less. Workers could not keep up with the pace, so they found short cuts which resulted in mistakes and overpaid claims. Poor customer service became commonplace, but as long as you "clicked off" a lot of tasks and answered a certain number of calls you were good!

It's no secret, the quality of work is the worst ever, mistakes are costing the company millions, workers are disgruntled and the best ones are leaving to our competitors. Mid-level managers knew there were problems but if they voiced concern or criticized the new model their careers were in jeopardy. Just look at how many high level managers have bailed out of the company long before their retirement date, it's very telling.

As for results, the combined ratio has skyrocketed. Loss of policies are the highest in company history, indemnity and expense is out of control. Some say if this was a stock company the CEO would have been sent packing long ago.

Now there are sweeping office closures, more long term talent is being kicked to the curb in favor of less expensive unskilled workers. Turnover in the hubs is staggering as they have created a job very few motivated and educated people will seek out. The company seems lost, we hear of turmoil in the boardroom, hundreds of leaders are exiting, the talent pool is draining.....something has to change quickly or State Farm will be a case study for upper level university management courses on where did such a powerful company go wrong. Wake up State Farm.

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Post ID: @50ntv+NdLWLtO

Why is the post titled lawsuit and there is no further mention of why? Are you implying that because you were let go that you are going to sue because you lack marketable skills to get another job? Wake up, this is happening to companies across the country. Look at Caterpillar. This isn’t new and it’s not unique to State Farm. At the end of the day, a company will do what they have to do for the business. You couldn’t be “kept on” as a contract employee because contract employees are employed by other companies (Randstad, TekSystems...)

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Post ID: @4Myrc+NdLWLtO

It is sad.

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Post ID: @4Konq+NdLWLtO

If you go to a call center checkout all the gang members. These are the folks that took you neighbors job.

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Post ID: @2Oowa+NdLWLtO

I am so thankful I escaped claims in 2000 after 15 years as a well trained experience BI adjuster. Today those poor employees have no training and work in a claims factory. The environment is terrible and the quality of work due to no experience is horrible. I hope the company can stay in business until I retire. It breaks my heart to see what they have done to a former A+ company.

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Post ID: @7efa+NdLWLtO

I too had 30 yrs and left the co last year. I cant believe how the co changed so much and not for the better. Its so sad. Nothing is worth the anxiety I had my last year working there.

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Post ID: @3yhb+NdLWLtO

I was transferred within State Farm to a Hub. I was working bodily injury claims without any training on how to handle a claim! It was a horrible experience and the most stressful job I've ever had because of the lack of training. I saw first hand how claims are being handled which led me to cancel my policies I had with State Farm. State Farm used to advertise "you might pay a little more but you'll be glad you did when you have a claim". Sure can't say that now. At one point State Farm dropped about 15 places in customer service, then fell again in the next JD Power rating. This company is so far out of touch. After working as an employee of State Farm for close to 30 years (not just in an agent's office. Agents and their employees are not employed by State Farm) I left feeling ashamed of the company I was once so proud to work for.

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Post ID: @2ugq+NdLWLtO

So true!!

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Post ID: @2lbp+NdLWLtO

Wow

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Post ID: @soe+NdLWLtO

Sorry to hear this

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