I am sure these people are celebrating this week on another "successful" culling. What must it be like to be in this group? What kind of mindset must they have? What is their basis of job-satisfaction?
I suspect it is how much pain they can inflict, and how many $ they can cut. "Job well done, gang!"
Bet they get RSU's based on the number of people they cut. Any HR folks want to comment?
Cisco HR is broken. Most people don't have a clue where they stand performance-wise and the continual layoffs are totally shrouded in mystery.
When I resigned a year ago I dealt with a bunch of people in Poland (I'm based in the UK) and never got an exit interview or anything of the sort. Even my termination confirmation arrived by email.
The only time I saw HR is when they came in to give us a happy clappy presentation on the new people deal or when managers used "HR process shrug" as an excuse for laying off good people.
The people I know who worked in HR in large companies undergoing restructuring all left. They had a kind of PTSD after the multiple events. The two I know went to social work and ministry. The scars were pretty bad.
I'd like to at least hear a little more compassion from the CEO and CFO (aside from a strategy to STOP this madness by having a real vision other than turning everything into a subscription, but that's another matter). Right now, the two are just acting like financial machines. They just push this down the chain.
The poster here is an idiot. An utter twat of the first degree. Firstly HR don't decide who goes or how many go. You Muppet. It's Chuck and his pals. It's manager's who decide. HR are the guys who have to handle the fallout. Some of them are losing people they have known for years.
Here's a shock for the original poster. HR get hit too.
Should we blame the engineers for not innovating enough. Or maybe we should blame sales for not selling enough?
The poster here quite plainly has no concept of corporate life.
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Anyone get the boot over a comment on Linked In? Is that legal?
I am in CTM, wife is in HR. I can tell you that nobody over there enjoys layoffs, but... Some will handle the process poorly, lack of compassion, carelessness, lack of focus, etc - just like in any other position - yet, when I do it, the code does not work - when they do it, it personally hurts... They get paid sh-- too (compared to the rest of us) - so, if some of them were to drop the attitude, focus on the individual and be super careful - things would be different.
Nonetheless, I know for sure that fixing the aforementioned problems is not on the executive priority list...
And the people who dole out the sh#t sandwich and don't "refuse to do their job" just sold their soul for a few shekels --- and will likely get the shaft in August. You take a job in management and don't actually care for the folks that report to you and save your own a-- for a couple months -- well -- you aren't exactly a person with stellar character. But these days, people seem to discount character for the quarterly results --- so it is par for the course.
I've known many people in HR ove the years. Not a single one of them took joy in layoffs, dealing with performance issues etc. I know more than one that were also impacted in LR rounds,, and others that left because they could no longer deal with Cisco.
To assume that anyone is glad handing in HR because of this is immature and disrespectful to people who were handed a sh*t sandwich and told to feed it to people. Getting laid off s---s for most people. I know, I've been there. Don't blame the messengers or the people just doing the job that they were assigned. They have families, bills and responsibilities too. If they refuse to do their job they are out on the street without a severance packet. That is called fired for insubordination, or fired for failure to perform their assigned duties.
My entire interview, negotiation and start paperwork was handled by a kelly services temp when I started 5+ years ago. Wasn't sure cisco had a real hr. Sure a kelly services worker could give a plugged nickel about who gets laid off
HR is in a terrible position? Uh huh. How about the people fired who have been over performing in their job, making their numbers, exceeding their goals and still get nailed because of gross incompetence in leadership.
Those people deserve the recognition of being in a 'terrible position'.
That's a pretty pathetic view on how corporations work. The CEO and CFO generally set financial targets for companies and then business units provide feedback on how they are doing against those targets. When it's clear their forecasts won't reach their targets, the company needs to adjust. It's at that point that HR is involved in working with each Business Unit to figure out how to adjust. HR is in a terrible position.