Heard from recruiter couple of days ago. Whats up with that group? Any layoffs there?
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For starters - Metacloud falls under Kip Compton and his Cloud Organization - not CPSG. The last layoffs were primarily Headquarter CPSG people. For those forfeiting the cloud market to Amazon & Google, Azure makes me wonder how many of you have seen a customer in the past 6-12 months. The undeniable trend in enterprise customers is HYBRID Cloud--- yes, most if not all will deploy certain workloads in the public cloud - but for a host of reasons- Security being one of the highest - Retail, Healthcare, FSI, Government entities will not risk having mission critical apps and data in the Public Cloud.
How about UCS Director? I heard that they're planing to kill it... not that much revenue..
I'm thinking it is more plausible of a sale of UCS. The product generates low margins and is in decline. But it is the only revenue generator. Openstack, Metacloud, Nexus1000, Intercloud are already dead. Software sales have been a failure, and Tetration + Cloudcenter + Appdynamics will be the next shoe to drop. Perhaps they will punt and refocus on data center networking only - like it was 7 years ago.
Yes Metacloud is CPSG. It had it shared of turmoil earlier this year is it still continuing?
CPSG is metacloud not CSPG (which group is that?)
Heard this evening CSPG is gonna get hit shortly.
what @Nsk0j8Y-1bex said. It truly sad to see some of the very best talent go waste like this.
"They'd be better off playing the lottery, at least there's a chance of winning."
While Ciscos and HPs are waiting for their chances at the lottery, the microsofts/amazons/googles are eating everybody's lunch everyday by trusting their engineers to deliver the innovative products.
This is pure leadership and strategy issue at Cisco. They for some reason stopped believing in their engineering and started believing in acquisitions and LRs. I don't believe Cisco can deliver any cool product that can attract industry's attention with that attitude.
Maybe that is the vision. A group made out of pivoting in an industry (cloud) in which you have to have a solution/offering. So no matter what they propose, they get funding for their new idea. ELT is desperate to have something, so anything is better than nothing. They'd be better off playing the lottery, at least there's a chance of winning.
The leadership is seriously flawed. It is like they have no idea what they are doing scraping projects every quarter and building something new only to trash it again next quarter.
There is no vision.
Cliqr was bought by MPLS (the ACI folks) and not the Cloud org. This in itself is an obvious sign Cisco has no cloud strategy. Maybe the cloud group will start reselling Juniper Contrail.
Never understood why the ELT hired a bunch of ex-HP Cloud guys to lead cisco cloud. In my years in the industry nobody has looked at failures at a sign of future success. I wonder if they thought "I shut down HP Cloud and failed making a successful Openstack cloud" was a strength. I don't think Cisco ELT has the knowledge to even interview people at that level to lead.
In 2 years, Tetration and Appdynamics will be the next 2 billion flushed.
Metacloud was a lesson on why Cisco is in trouble. Good & market-relevant product with an opportunity to enter a new market. Instead it was squandered and very basic mistakes were made.
It's crazy to think at one point Cisco was going to have a PaaS layer (based on Cloud Foundry), a killer IaaS and complementary pipeline services like Shipped. For workloads that didn't need an opinionated platform there was Mantl. Leadership's failure to execute meant almost none of it happened which was crazy as we had customers desperate to buy it!
There was no ability to sell small and grow (critical in successful software sales), no way to help customers realise their investment in UCS or ACI, no respected industry CTO to get Cisco in hearts-and-minds... Just a pretty good IaaS and a lot of broken promises.
If you don't believe me, go look at some 2015/16 GSX videos and see some of the promises being made there!
I think the only 'cloud' product Cisco has left now is CloudCenter... and we all know that's a steaming turd.
All the non-acquired talent has left and the talent that is left is there from acquisition and is just doing the "rest and vest". Three acquisitions, Piston (all LRd back in Feb), MetaCloud (most have left) and ContainerX (hasn't hit 1yr anniversary yet). New Products and revenue from them? Zero.
The leadership in that group probably spent over a 1/2 a BILLION chasing the intercloud vision and whatever else is happening there. Revenue? Zero. How does the ELT let this leadership keep spending money with no ROI. Reminds me of the old investing expression, "Never try to catch a falling knife." Leadership keeps making promises to the SVPs and EVPs about how "If AWS can make billions, so can we...." #S---erBornEveryMinute
How many LR's in this group? Can anyone comment on what the future looks like for this org ?
Read on another post there are layoffs not sure how many or how it impacts the container strategy
any more insights?
Thought they were rising from the ashes of intercloud with ContainerX. Will anybody actually buy it? Dunno, but it definitely bought a few more months of employment for the engineers and a resume builder for management.
Has there been any recent layoffs in this group?
Dead org. Maintenance only. Great engineers but I heard leadership had no idea how to grow them. Who wants managed Openstack anymore? Heard the founder left shortly after they vested as Cisco ELT was clueless.