Probably the most valuable inside info posted today is that M9 is going to be canceled. Too bad that there are still new features adding, bugs filling and fixing on M9 project. So much money and efforts has been devoted to M9 already.
Is there any inside info that when will the news of M9 cancelation will be announced officially? Any guesses?
People who have some inside info, please respond. People who are guessing, say that you are. Too many wild rumors flying as it is.
I'm surprised that so many seemed surprised. The trends and technology shifts have been growing and evident for 2-3 years now. S--- it up buttercup(s), and either re-tool your skills, or find another job. This is High Tech - always changing, change with it, or get off the train!
I have to say Oracle made a right decision on M9. Every company I interviewed with are using Linux, Azure or AWS. Not a single company uses SPARC/Solaris. I ended up deleting Solaris from my resume. SPARC/Solaris are great technologies but the industry trend shifted long time ago. All the server software are developed on Intel/Linux. We all know the reality. Let's face it and move on.
Oracle could have sold off or killed SPARC when it acquired Sun and would have been justified in doing so. Oracle decides it's had enough now that SPARC is back with compentecy especially in throughput and Swis area? Just because they don't have the vision to take the r&d costs hit and time to integrate it with their cloud sw which they are so called best at? This sounds like "The network is the computer" Sun losing out to an online book company in network computing. Can I please make millions making these decisions...
I guess we are living in a post trump world where placed leaders of orgs know nothing about them and are there to kill it.
@OBcIzMu-qxm say what? Intel, Fujitsu and IBM are desperately trying to catch up with the idea of SWiS we introduced with M7... and M9, if it see the light, will have the most advanced SWiS accelerator. with opendax you can do whatever AI/VR/ML you want, examples already exists. Intel is still unsuccesfully trying to integrate in Skylake Altera or Nervana technology, Fujitsu is pretending to have SWiS just because of some vectorial uops that everyone has, IBM has been forced to use capi i.e. an off-cpu pci-based solution to be able to say they got something comparable.....
I can agree on the single thread / throughput discussion, selling T1/T2/T3 was a nightmare, but with regards to on-cpu accelerator, no competitor still have a comparable technology. of course, you can talk me about external accelerator or dedicated specific asic/fpga, but that's another story, and both solutions have pros/cons... but the on-cpu technology embedded in M7 and in M9 if they will not kill it, is and will be absolutely unique.
Me too also think that SPARC is unfortunately dead, but that's not because of lack of new features.
Are you saying that based on this site or do you actually know?
Oct the last few days this site seems to be becoming a self -perpetuating social media bubble.
It's already cancelled, they just haven't told the troops yet. Good luck to all!
I don't see with current Architecture M9 will happen, Look at what fj , Intel etc coming up with. It looks completely stupid idea to come up with this kind of crap in 2020. When most of the startup / cloud companies will be some or other ways related to AI / VR etc.
Disagree that Niagara "was and is" the right direction. But Niagara guys delivered. Millennium and rock guys didn't. No point working on righr-direction processors that never tape out. Maybe they made the wrong call, but at least Afara guys don't vacation in Hawaii while not delivering on anything.
Niagara saved the skin of Sun back in the mid-2000s. Their processor roadmap back then was utterly dire with 2 and 4 core crap which topped out at 650mhz. This was one acquisition of Andy's company which allowed Sun to live for another decade in some form or another. Even FJ made better SPARC chips back then when compared to Sun. It was embarrassing to think we had to get that deal with FJ to tide us over when that Millennium and Eagle crap cratered.
Niagara was and still is the right direction. If you look whee compute has been, is, and will be going, "single thread" is "starved thread".
a lightweight core/thread is ideal for trends such as serverless. SPARC is insanely well-positioned for this, especially compared to x86. ARM would be the other platform of choice.
Although SPARC will be dead, Sun workstation is still being used.
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Ya because rock and millenium were so great.
looking back , I wish sun never bought the afara company (niagara ) in early 2000's.
It gave too much importance to multi-threading (throughput computing marketing) and ignoring single-thread performance . It also created a big politics between original sun team and new afara team.
once oracle bought sun in 2010 , It went back to drawing board and spent time on how to improve single thread performance again since Oracle Database workloads need strong single thread performance. And by the time the single thread performance is catching up slowly with competitor's (x86/power) by 2015 , most of the customers already jumped the ship to x86.
Its sad to see the end of SPARC and enter history books like DEC Alpha , HP PA-RISC , Intel Itanium.
Thank you for the info. This clearly tell us the M9 will be canceled.
I left SPARC hardware earlier this year. Colleagues still working in SPARC tell me M9 will be canceled.
Next week.
So what's going to happen with the M8 announcement at OOW?? Any news on that?
If M9 is to be cancelled how do you think that plays with the timing of Open World? It seems either they announce the cancellation very shortly, or they wait until after Open World. I doubt they'll make the announcement just before Open World.
Anyone know what the severance package structure may be?
Well, I don't have any inside info. Just the rumor. But it sounds so true. It will never be confirmed until official news announced. Right? But yesterday's rumor about ZFS totally proved itself today.
To the poster 5 minutes ago, my guess is if he has "inside information" he wouldn't be asking the question.
When you say M9 is canceled as a valuable information , are you stating a rumor or you have an inside information that it was confirmed canceled and you just asking about "when" ?