Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

To summarize the two,... Intel has big problem with culture, hiring is mix of blind and crooked plus other diversity bs. Few left decent Intel people summarized it by stating that almost all of Intel values written on the back of the Intel calendar card are permanently broken and that HR is complicit. Intel recycles people, where after a while people with skills leave, so what is left are a lot of incompetent people in places like higher level technical positions or all management positions. Politics is at toxic level and ethnic mafia unions are everywhere. This is rampant to the degree that number of good employees is steadily decreasing.

On the other hand NVidia was quite opposite, has kept it's structure quite flat, culture sound and HR efficient, professional hiring practices. All of this, over the years of their underdog position has resulted in formidable high tech execution engine which is all behind recent results.

So, upper two pictures are very different and Intel can not be fixed over night, nor NVidia would relax and suddenly loose the race.

Therefore, realistically question in this thread has valid point, although it might take time, 3 years at best or 7 years at worst or anywhere in between for NVidia to buy Intel. Another question would be, why would NVidia even want to buy Intel at that time depending what is variably left of it.

"Not saying everything is great about Intel, but the huge problems are cultural and relate to (lack of) operational efficiency.". This is true, and it can be proven by looking at how long it takes Intel to get to market. It's a damn big problem and no one within Intel seems to know how to fix it. We can creat a perfect manufacturering process but we can't do it with efficiency so it becomes ineffective and less valuable.

your entire post is an ad-hominem other than asking him to prove/cite the $100B : which is a valid point.

I do not know what to do with you people: your overall group IQ, when its adds up is around 80! What a group of morons collected in one place?! :-((

Bunch of idiots without the brains... And, it is NOT an insult to call bunch of idiots as true idiots! ;-)

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/NVDA?p=NVDA

(I'll whisper: Market Cap $100.54B)

Time Will Tell

@OEG0t8S-1zej

"... fit with your "I disagree with you so I insult you" discussion style"

your entire post is an ad-hominem other than asking him to prove/cite the $100B : which is a valid point.

HR, HR proxies, and Intel legal are all but confirmed to be datamining this board and posting disinformation. If they don't work to protect the brand they are stupid - Intel legal is not stupid.

@1ymv Where do you get the $100B from? Just another example of people on this board basing their opinions on a complete fantasy.

And re-read your post. Do you think you come across as intelligent? What do you think it says about people when they assume anyone who does not share their opinion must have been paid for their opinion?

And heck, you sound like an Indian for whom English is just a third or fourth language. Would also fit with your "I disagree with you so I insult you" discussion style.

Not saying everything is great about Intel, but the huge problems are cultural and relate to (lack of) operational efficiency. Revenue streams and finances are not an Intel problem. Heck, if Intel wanted, it could buy AMD and NVIDIA today. Just like that.

You see, @1qif (HR PR, and very bad, very moronic/dummy one), what smart people are answering to U, and to INTEL BOD?! You don't get it, do you, dude??? Just like that...

Please, check, ugly HR bloke: NVDA is now a major player in the data centers and this is not a "minor segment" or "shrinking and thus meaningless". NVDA is badly beating INTEL in AI and Automotive businesses, also in mobile (TEGRA line is NOT dedicated only for these AI and Automotive segments).

So, how you'll justify 10K employees working in 4 major areas, making value of $100B, while INTEL 110K employees are in ~79 areas (all over the place, inefficient, clumsy and slipping every day) failing to deliver. Deliver strong and long, as NVDA does!? ;-)

Time Will Tell

If Nvidia architectecure becomes the accelerator of choice for AI and autonomous driving and becomes the competitive advantage for cars and all forms of next level computing then Intel will be the manufacturer of last decades micro controller that people value as much as they did a z80 two decades ago.

Intel has failed at every attempt to move beyond x86 and control the architecture with a new and more advanced proprietary instruction set. They tried with Itanium and failed, then believed a return to x86 was surely going to beat ARM in mobile and tablets due to its huge installed base of software and superior cadence in process. Ask PSO how that went!

We now see ARM kicked intel in the nuts and TSMC and Samsung have matched intel in process and x86 holds NO inherent advantage beyond its installed software base.

ARM and other specialized architectures are proving that a ubiquitous but average architecture which was the recipe for success of the last two decades is no longer the competitive approach to today's compute needs.

BK thought x86 still is the answer and will fail like PSO but it will be even uglier!

BK and Intel is now caught way behind on ever trend as intel cultural isn't capable of the fast reaction required on new markets. So it is ill equipped to compete, let even have a chance to win, especially as the last advantage their process lead and cadence has evaporated at 14nm and 10nm continues to be just a dream coming in three quarters for the last 8 quarters.

Can of whoop a$$ has been out on intel. Took an extra decade and it wasn't IBM, Motorola or AMd that many thought would do it, turned out it was the three stooges for CRB, PSO and BK that did it!

@1qif - You might want to think again about NVDA. Its current market cap is around $100bn which makes it more than half as valuable as Intel. I don't think Intel (~$180bn) could buy them at this point, even if they wanted. While it's true that revenue and net income are still far from Intel, at their current rate of growth, it's not impossible to see NVDA catching up in the next decade, maybe even 5 years if AI really explodes at it's expected to. Check your data dude, NVDA is now a major player in the data center and this is not a "minor segment" or "shrinking and thus meaningless". NVDA is eating Intel's lunch in AI and automated driving, making way more money right now than Intel in those fast-growing segments. Who's the clueless idiot now?

You might want to compare NVIDIAs and Intels revenue, income and assets. NVIDIA isn't anywhere close to playing in the same league as Intel.

It says a lot about this board that the clueless idiots keep comparing Intel to companies like AMD and NVIDIA just because they happen to be competitive with Intel in one or two minor segments (minor segments that according to every expert who doesn't use Amazon as an indication of company success are shrinking and thus meaningless).

If any company is going to buy Intel, it has to he a behemoth like Samsung.

Not saying everything is great about Intel, but the huge problems are cultural and relate to (lack of) operational efficiency. Revenue streams and finances are not an Intel problem. Heck, if Intel wanted, it could buy AMD and NVIDIA today. Just like that.

Jen Hsun so despises Intel he is enjoying his personal can of whoop a$$ he is putting on the company. I think a double joy for a Stanford asian to kick a white San Jose State 🤡

If the autonomous driving and AI play out as expected Nvdia will win it. So in a decade the premise posed by the OP would be Intel in 2000 buying Motorola after x86 beat PowerPC. Nope in a decade silicon manufacturing will be ruled by the Far East and Intel will be another washed up American company right up there with Kodak, Westinghouse and others.

Thanks CRB, PSO and BK the 🤡 Setting up the failure

Given the current stock and market cap trajectory of both companies, this is not impossible in 5-10 years.