Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Meritocracy is dead

Anyone agree? Evidence

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Post ID: @OP+OJBcwbz

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I see we have jokers that would be better off to leave Intel and start comedy acting career

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Post ID: @bxml+OJBcwbz

Meritocracy isn't dead. What is considered meritorious has just changed a lot...

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Post ID: @9cno+OJBcwbz

Agree.

Multiple layers of management and other technical positions are highly selfish and political with variable degree of incompetence. Hiring and promotion criteria is superficial and URMs are hired and blindly pushed up. Idea theft is everywhere. Tribalism in certain groups is very visible. Political correctness and non confrontational s---ing up is increasingly rewarded versus constructive confrontation from competent employees, often resulting in unwilling to hear the truth and very willing to hear all forms of lies. Who gets to be pushed out or gets card out is often most valuable employee, although I do still see positive exceptions to this, but over the time trend is clearly negative.

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Post ID: @9udn+OJBcwbz

Hey joesixpack, which group?

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Post ID: @4jzz+OJBcwbz

Thanks for the truthful reply, joesixpack, and telling it like it is. The mgrs above you were obviously cowards just trying to protect their own necks.

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Post ID: @4qxb+OJBcwbz

@OJBcwbz-4tpt Call B$ the average focal budget was larger than the budget you got, how as that possible? Your manager keeping the budget for himself?

Meritocracy at its best at Intel!

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Post ID: @4cej+OJBcwbz

@4tpt, thanks for sharing your experience. Look like need to change gender to get promotion. If it is not allowed by family, need develop skill to become close body of upper manager.

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Post ID: @4dkp+OJBcwbz

I was an level 8 mgr for 7 years before taking the buyout offer one year ago. I had 10 people or more reporting to me that entire time and my focal budget was cut significantly for the last three years to the point I could only give 1-2% raises or less depending on stock to my reports. I myself had two exceeds expectations back to back and was taking on all kinds of addition work and assignments to get prepared for a promotion. When my mgr submitted me for promotion, he was told by his mgr (level 10) that this was not going to happen. I was told to my face by my mgr that he was told by his mgr that I would never be promoted to the next level no matter what I did since he had to move women and minorities up before me to meet 'expectations' by HR. Meritocracy is dead for white men at intel and a big joke for everyone else

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Post ID: @4tpt+OJBcwbz

@3qzb what a useful idiot you must be for the Party.

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Post ID: @3ues+OJBcwbz

Glad some idiot happy with their 6% E

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Post ID: @3vit+OJBcwbz

@3qzb - Thanks for the fake news, HR. This was true maybe 5 or 10 years ago. Under the klown, meritocracy is absolutely and unequivocally dead and replaced by nepotism, cronyism and identity politics.

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Post ID: @3iqs+OJBcwbz

GPTW, meet the distribution of O, E, S and IR. Meet the quota of level 1,2, 3 and 4/5 stock.

Biggest joke was when my VP called down and asked if he could bump a couple promos and swap a couple URM to O/1 in my group, resist and get $hitcanned. All about quotas, not peroformanc or meritocracy

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Post ID: @2mqc+OJBcwbz

Meritocracy is a facade. Executives peddle a phony story just to make the outside world believe this is how performance is rated. We all know mgrs can grade employees whatever they are told per current company edicts.

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Post ID: @2vka+OJBcwbz

Huh? You haven't been at Intel for very long, right? There are performance-based layoffs every single year. FLMs are forced to reach IR quotas in Focal every year, and the result of an IR is usually that the employee in question is asked to leave the company.

The only reason why some people don't see performance-based layoffs is that their FLMs manage to wiggle their way out of them (at the expense of other teams). Basically, the definition of good FLM at Intel is: "A manager who didn't give any IRs to anyone in his team despite quota pressure from his manager."

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Post ID: @2awr+OJBcwbz

As far as I can tell, the only way someone can get fired from Intel is through a large culling like ACT or by gross misconduct (basically something illegal or dangerous). They do not fire for incompetence, laziness or failure to deliver.

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Post ID: @2umo+OJBcwbz

It's dead in almost every big company.

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Post ID: @1zmn+OJBcwbz

Talking about iCDG - how about the middle and upper middle management that openly sabotaged the G5 initiatives but somehow managed to survive ACT instead of getting fired for insubordination (and for stupidity)? Where is the meritocracy when we drag so much dead weight around with us?

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Post ID: @rkf+OJBcwbz

Meritocracy is gone when the leaders say everything is fine, when Mark said Moore's law is still well alive and strong in intel, when Aisha said we didn't just do power point like others but made 5g modem in MWC.

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Post ID: @cpn+OJBcwbz

The various tools teams in iCDG. 10 years of continuous complete failure, and they are still around, while other far more competent and productive people were let go in ACT.

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Post ID: @riz+OJBcwbz

Just look at the 10nm program and tell me was meritocracy demonstrated there?

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Post ID: @hkq+OJBcwbz

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