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Impact of cloud washing on comp - TheRegister

See TheRegister for story on how cloud washing / one time cloud deals are impacting comp - will be interesting to see how investors feel about this, not hard to see reading this story that oracle cloud revenues have been artificially inflated

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This is rampant with ERP LOB. Renewal rates below 50% significantly. Sold as a discount or compliance issue and customer never plans to implement.

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This is the article. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/25/oracles_cloudy_cash_dash_could_fall_flat_insiders_warn/

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Post ID: @lbg+OWOCZ9d

So true and its all around EMEA.

As per the article which I just can confirm that Dermot (UK, Ireland and Israel) and his technology sales teams been leading and compensated on this one-time deals, include discounts of on-prem renewals and offers to write-off non-compliance payments after audits - assuming the customer also takes the cloud.

Time to speak up and report

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Post ID: @lyg+OWOCZ9d

So true. So contradictory. So stupid...

On-prem revenues are avoided like the plague even though they pay the bills and keep the lights on.

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Post ID: @cxt+OWOCZ9d

Securities fraud pumping up the share price

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Post ID: @kms+OWOCZ9d

cloud washing..same as money laundering in the sky

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Post ID: @gaz+OWOCZ9d

SEC time to take a look at this

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Post ID: @ivc+OWOCZ9d

Great article and SPOT ON in my opinion! House of Cards appears to be at a tipping point...

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Post ID: @ghy+OWOCZ9d

Everyone knows investors want to see cloud. That causes every legacy vendor to figure out how to show cloud growth. Vendors without a legacy business like Salesforce, Workday, Amazon, and Google don't have this problem. Traditional vendors like Oracle, Microsoft, IBM, HP, Dell-EMC, and Cisco have this problem. Traditional vendors will do almost anything they can get away with to classify a dollar as a cloud dollar. Comp plans are even being setup to favor or only pay on cloud revenues. On-prem revenues are avoided like the plague even though they pay the bills and keep the lights on.

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