Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Last I knew, or cared to check, Oracle used the absolutely horrid Taleo software for their job applicant site. ATS systems are usually the weakest link in the recruiting process. If you cannot properly spec a job and get the right people to apply it does not matter. You will fail.

Business is a team sport, no room for sharks, just look at the decline of oracle

TK oozes negative energy all around. No talent wants to work in Oracle due to his reputation

its not about likeability.

its about results.

sharks just feed. they dont make friends.

He does LE's dirty work for him so LE could not care less that MH is a total A:hole

• MH: likely the most unimpressive, uncharismatic manager I've seen in my 20+ work life in high tech. How come LE can be in love with this guy?

So at the pow-wow, His Eminence, the great delusional leader#1 (known as LE) has set forth the mandate: the fix for the retention crisis is to speed up the hiring process. LOL! At my department, (let's just say it has to do with IaaS), the hiring has been slow-going. We have positions that have been advertised for months. And if the reason is because word on the street is that Wh--e-acle (as my friends call it) isn't on the hot list of companies, then you would think the recruiters and hiring managers would be even more aggressive in the hiring and be aggressive to respond to applicants to lure them. But no, the hiring has been languishing. My co-workers are saying wtf? Why the slowness? This place is a mess, and I'm bailing soon (an offer is pending).

Sweet revenge - of course nobody wants to work for theses A:holes

Having a hard time hiring b/c the word is out on the street about oracle. It is not what it used to be. Job seekers do not want a workplace like oracle. It is the antithesis of what workers want, young and old alike. With so many better options in the marketplace of tech, oracle is not on the hot list.

“...we're having a real tough time hiring folks.”

Maybe if the HR personnel/recruiters actually responded to the applicants, they would fill vacancies. Then again, this is Oracle, the exemplar of profound corporate idiocy. My son and some friends were laid off from IBM and Cisco recently. Oracle isn't exactly on the top of their list but because they're on the job hunt, they're casting a wide net. All of them have said they haven't received any response from Oracle recruiters; yet, as somebody mentioned earlier, there are so many job postings on the career site. You get this feeling that Oracle is in paralysis. They need to turn the company around but the recruitment is broken and they don't know how to fix all their problems.

Classic MH to try to fix the totally wrong problem. Fixing the right one would start with getting rid of MH, so that May of course explain why he's doing what he's doing. Wake up and smell the coffee LE!

I recalled in an old thread "Work at Oracle is Stressful", someone mentioned that victimised employee cannot speak up, so he(or she) was not taking up Oracle career offer.

They are having a hard time filling the sales jobs in the cloud saas gbus now...

@4xpb

Don't know about people quitting, but we're having a rea tough time hiring folks.

from @Of5oBGs-1dby:

“The official response to the retention crisis is to improve (speed up) the job offer process so that replacement workers don't get snapped up by other employers first.”

So how bad is the retention crisis, especially in the US? Are people just leaving big time and the company is struggling to lure talent? Is the retention crisis across the board in all functions? For example, software developers, technical writers? How about other roles?

Also, I noticed some jobs on the Oracle career site that date back to February 2017. Is the company having a hard time filling these positions? Or is it just negligence from, say recruiters, who don't update these listings? (I know some developers who have applied recently at Oracle, and they say the recruiters they dealt with were lousy.)

Please share any insights.

LESJEM_Genius, better lay of whatever you are on, I am sure a "mandatory pee test" is coming your way soon courtesy of your genius and his exec team.

MH & SC taking a long term view - now that's priceless! They are taking the shortest term view they can b/c they know the are driving oracle into the ditch, they just want to collect as much cash as they can before the music stops

look, if you are enjoying your job at oracle, stay there. If not got out and create some options for yourself before you are forced to. There's no question things are changing at Oracle, and whether you like MH or SC or not, changing an org that big will always be painful and have bumps. the execs take a very long term view of the company because they have to. If you happen to be in a part of Oracle that is doing reasonably well, you can make some good money, have good benefits, and a decent work/life balance. If you are in an org that is doing poorly, then either look to move internally if you can, or go create some options for yourself. But if you take the 'cork in the ocean' approach, it's only a matter of time till you drift onto a deserted island! Oracle will end up being successful in some of the markets they are going after. Some of the others, probably not so much. Whether they end up "#1" big dog is certainly up for debate!

LE - the "genius" leading oracle into oblivion b/c he refused to see that the cloud was for real before it was too late and oracle had fallen too far behind to catch up. You keep s---ing LE's exhaust pal!

Larry Ellison is a genius and if you listened you fully understand the vision and the potential market-cap. For all you Anonymous employee's that bad mouth Oracle, shut up and leave and pollute the next company you go to or stand in the unemployment line you so richly deserve.

I would like to have those 3+ hours of my life back.

that's the reason for the love fest?

they are afraid that the kids from school aren't willing to be feed stock for the pyramid scheme?

i don't see how that would work since this is only an employee event. what else are they doing outside of that to attract new sheep? this place is a revolving door for the young-uns, most of them come in and settle long enough to keep their signing bonus or what not and then hike on outta here for greener pastures.

on the comments about older/experienced workers, I don't get it. at least in my division, i hear kids coming in from school get way more $ than most of the mid tier existing legacy folks anyway. looking at the parking lot confirms this. sure the newer folks may have been taught to some newer skills, but they do not have the experience. you can train someone on a new language, platform, etc. fairly quickly. experience is gained through work, time and bumping into brick walls and cannot be taught. the problem with the older folks is they rarely upgrade their skills. the company pins them into a niche role and never invests in any training or anything, and many become complacent and do not want or have the fortitude to learn something new until they get the boot in the arssss and have to scramble.

did they announce any follow on things that will be happening following this love fest?

any concrete actions that will impact employees?

Talk is cheap, that's why they babble and keep the cash for themselves. Leave!

You still get bonus? A lot of people have no raise for years, no bonus, no overtime.

Lots of cool aid was dispensed. MH discussed the same tired points he always does. LOTS of thank you'd from execs and how much they care for their most valuable asset and the record Q4 we had ....... but as I look at my Q4 bonus today it's down 42% from prior year. Somehow all the thank you's didn't make it onto my paystub.

Yr over year revenue is down across the board.

Churn is up with clients.

Revolving door for Employess and cloud clients especially.

Class of program is on life support bc the word is out at the universities in Austin and elsewhere that it's a dead end program.

The business is very sick and it's all hands on deck to get the business "turned around".

Spreadsheet management and cut throat, Machiavellian behavior is encouraged and rewarded in upper management.

Once the goals ( whatever they are ) are achieved they will be unsustainable by the ghost ship of talent. The kiddos coming up are clueless and desperate for jobs so they get s---ered in by MH and his Mgmt mini Me's.

Everyone else is just shopping for a better gig while they keep treading water .

NOT a lot of clapping I must say and the more SC went on, the more folks were getting glazed eyes. Plus emphasis on youth. Not much for you old fuddy duddies over 40. Plenty of Kool-Aid was drunk

Introspection is not MH's strong suite - if there is anyone who is old and mercenary it would be him. LOL! I think what he meant is that he wants cheap and gullible!

In theory, we should be in a good place. But the happy smiley non-dysfunctional places pictured don't match my experience. On the one hand, I wonder what they are "on". I think it would be nice to get some. But then I go back to the dumb processes and politics that slow everything down. I thought that when TK sent out a "thanks" email a week or so ago that it was a bit creepy. I now see where it came from.

1. "Our employees are our best asset", "Oracle is nothing without our employees" and "All the thanks belongs to the employees." Words are cheap and are nothing but manipulative tactics to shift the focus away from how executive actions say something very different.

2. Major marketing to the 20-somethings. Oracle is "green", building a school, recycling, matching charitable giving and anything else that may sound good. At the same time, Oracle is focusing on the college campus, building "hubs" in locations like Austin and Santa Monica, working on improving the hiring/onboarding experience and planning to start offering Apple computers as a standard option. The spin is that Oracle cares and that Oracle can train young employees from the start of their career.

3. MH actually disparaged the practice of hiring experienced talent from competitors as getting "mercenary" employees. So experienced employees are undesirable and college grads are the future?

Sounds more like the objective is to lower employee pay/benefits.

1. Oracle is going to beat EVERYBODY in the Cloud, even though Oracle got a late start. The customer base Oracle has in business applications and database coupled with the fact that only Oracle offers everything from top to bottom (software, hardware, OS and support) means that customers would be crazy to go somewhere else. The executives are pitching that there isn't a viable alternative. Just to make sure, partners are being cut out of deals, Oracle applications are a lock-in for the Oracle Cloud and database licensing was changed to make it too expensive to run on a competitor's Cloud.

2. The typical LE braggadocio. He claimed to be the founder of two "Cloud" companies. NetSuite was the "first ever Cloud company" (um, he was an investor and later Oracle bought the company, but "founder"?). And Oracle started writing software for the Cloud over nine years ago making it a pioneer! Check out http://www.cbronline.com/news/cloud/he-said-what-5-things-larry-ellison-actually-said-about-cloud-4563323/

It was all spin. The executive team is out for their own stock options and they will do whatever they can to keep their large compensation plans rolling in. This was their chance to win over the young employees and to try and give enough hope for the future to keep the older, experienced "mercenary" employees thinking that they might be able to stay around for a while longer.

The official response to the retention crisis is to improve (speed up) the job offer process so that replacement workers don't get snapped up by other employers first.

They did "thank" employees for making it happen, but no mention of any sort of reward.

how did they "thank" the employees?

any announcements on raises or bonuses or layoffs?

Hmmm...the chicks at Oracle are not that good looking at all. Need to spice things up.

Raise your hand and let us know if you were inspired by this snooze fest

Very lame! And this is supposed to be the team leading oracle, how pathetic!

in short:

• MH 30 min.. propaganda .. "..Oracle finally is out to get them all.." + (FREE) thank you employees

• old lady HR/ director... almost sleeping on the stage..+ (FREE) thank you employees

• Safra..." : blah..blah.. + (FREE) thank you employees

• TK... Oracle technology is ..rocket science..

and bunch of other useless blah..blah..blah..