Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Oracle Consulting on Life Support.!!

It is clear that this forum is mainly driven by sales/support (past or present) staff.

however, there are other-- once reputable, organizations within Oracle which are being wiped out due to the recent events: namely North America OCS / Oracle Consulting Srvc.

Have you heard ever.. that a Vice president of a company beg for business from its own sales force?

M.Gould..another idle VP--has been sending blast emails for the past 2 years, so Sales/pre-sales managers throw some bones to his consultants! where bench has been and is high..in the presence of cheap 'SI' like infosys--clients won't pay high hourly rates anymore plus lack of staff training to what sales is selling are just another reason why OCS has been unprofitable and will be a side-show..and people leaving or let go of constantly.. seems like MH should get to it eventually..

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No one is buying Oracle. No new products or new development go with Oracle, so the customers don't need Oracle Consulting. Kill Oracle sales and everything else falls of too.

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Post ID: @2igd+OqgFZ6U

to the ( @OqgFZ6U-1lqp )/...OCS is live and well"...

guard your paycheck A-hole...that does not change the reality.. your nut size brain

does not comprehend the real issue...'oracle sales force does not have confidence in OCS

to recommend it to customers.."..get it!!!!

read the reply further down from a sales dude..they are frustrated with OCS for longest time..

now say it to your daddy MH...

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Post ID: @1aiv+OqgFZ6U

Go to rehab dude, the drugs you're on a warping your sense of reality! OCS doing well, my a--!

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Post ID: @1qnq+OqgFZ6U

OCS is live and well, for the last 9 months Oracle has been a death spiral if you read this board. Try posting news that's real, idiot.

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Post ID: @1lqp+OqgFZ6U

Yet another area where oracle is off kilter, SFDC is rapidly building up their consulting capabilities. Did I say that LE, MH, and SC are plain stupid?

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Post ID: @1pct+OqgFZ6U

per other threads-- 'Cloud softwares are buggy, cannot be provisioned, etc..'

now send the OCS dude with only training of using online 'VM' samples..

I would be upset as a customer!..

either get serious to re-build the OCS/workforce.. or make the sales directors sweat

when the get a call everytime...!

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Post ID: @1bjv+OqgFZ6U

I've worked with a few great OCS people, but frankly, execs like SC don't like consulting because increased consulting revenue was once perceived by Wall St as a sign of product quality problems. OCS has never been a priority. The problem is now both financial analysts and industry analysts say that Oracle can't be a success in cloud without better consulting. Changing Oracle's corporate culture to emphasize consulting like IBM or SAP is like trying to turn a giant, old ship that's not moving very fast: the rudder is not effective.

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Post ID: @1iqf+OqgFZ6U

OCS is a joke. My customers won't do anything with them. I hate having to tell my customers about utilizing OCS, but I am required to by my manager.

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Post ID: @1yai+OqgFZ6U

In referenceto sales_person

@OqgFZ6U-naq ...reply..

Actually I appreciate your sentiment toward OCS...accenture is a real consulting firm... Lets face it..OCS is a group of 700 or so employees- with 15% managers..which leaves about 600 consultants..

at this point OCS is a pig with a lipstick..!..no training..and now with the cloud..I can guarantee there are close to 90% of staff just saw the recent powerpoint as the only training.... so..what is the reason to keep a group with no revenue prospect? either train people at the same level big 5 do...or...stop wasting salary on the top 15% fat a-- managers...!@$$

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Post ID: @1nbk+OqgFZ6U

A sales person here - please don't get me started on OCS and how many times we good in trouble because of this group. Why going with Accenture as an SI always works out for us and OCS is mostly a headache??? It's nuts...

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Post ID: @naq+OqgFZ6U

Yeah, if the 3 stooges knew the business and oracle itself, they would have shut down consulting long ago. That it's still around, just shows, yet again, how utterly incompetent MH, SC, and LE truly are. Just plain insane

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