Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

More layoffs next week

Major cuts to Systems are coming next week. Solaris, SPARC, and ZFS are expected to be hit hard. Whenever engineers are cut, sales follows swiftly after.

Can anybody confirm this, or is it just speculation? I have seen similar comments on other Oracle boards, but nothing concrete. Any info would be highly appreciated.

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Post ID: @OP+OuQOlnz

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These a-holes aren't going to force me to leave. I'll wait for the RIF and get a nice severance check courtesy of LE. In the meantime I'm doing the minimal amount of work to get by. I don't think anyone in my dept has put in a honest days work in six months.

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Post ID: @2ncc+OuQOlnz

If they want to kill morale and force folks to leave they are doing a great job. We are all dead man/woman walking

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Post ID: @2uar+OuQOlnz

Looks like new SVP hates Sun Tech such as Solaris/ZFS/SPARC and now destroying them one by one.

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Post ID: @2xjj+OuQOlnz

The new SVP is a walking caricature of everything wrong in the tech industry.

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Post ID: @2lwp+OuQOlnz

The new SVP? Hahahaha

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Post ID: @2zar+OuQOlnz

The original fishworks team were the first to a create hybrid storage appliance. Jump ahead a decade later to find that ZFSSA was the very last to market in all flash. It shouldn't be a complete surprise that it's being replaced in the cloud.

Don't point fingers at FS1, although I'm sure some nasty politics were played here. Instead, look right at ZFS management. They've spent the last 7 years since the acquisition flying business class around the world, pretending to glad hand customers as they rack up their miles and status. The product line must spend close to 1 million a year in travel alone. And for what? What's fundamentally changed with the product since 2010?

I'd argue the product has already been in sustaining mode for a very long time. And aside from the new SVP, it's been that same core team the whole time. It's a shame that guy wasn't hired sooner.

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Post ID: @1zce+OuQOlnz

Even if you survive.. do not wait long. ZFS org is going down. I do not have faith in the management. Lot of in fighting led to this.

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Post ID: @1jrj+OuQOlnz

seems like they are killing off all the sun tech one by one

sparc, solaris, zfs, ...

when are they going to declare EOL on java?

or will the rest of the world come to their senses and fork it and do something better with it (like LibreOffice did with openoffice) before big o has everyone by the balls?

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Post ID: @1sbm+OuQOlnz

They're not outright killing off ZFS or ZFSSA. It will go to a sustaining model very much like Solaris. It will still be developed, although at a significantly reduced capacity. Don't expect any new features or releases.

I'm guessing most of the ZFS execs will actually survive next week so that they can roadshow to customers. You know, tell them not to worry! We'll support you till 2030! Same old nonsense as Solaris.

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Post ID: @1vhl+OuQOlnz

Guys, please specify ZFS and ZFSSA. The former one is the ZFS File System on Solaris, the second one is ZFS Storage Appliance. ZFSSA includes hardware, drivers, HA, replication, user interfaces and much more. However, when they are taking away everything, nothing will be worth of even one cent. It still does not make any sense to me. It was like two sinking boats (Pillar and ZFSSA).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc1awt6v2M0 (movie) Now, who is the joker?

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Post ID: @1vtg+OuQOlnz

What a shame. There were some great developers in the org.

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Post ID: @1ufe+OuQOlnz

Unfortunately, the ZFS cuts are very much real and will be ~50% at all sites in the ZFS org. Some smaller sites will be 100% cut. ZFS upper management got caught with its pants down. I'd assume at least some of them will be exiting next week, or within a few months. FS1 replacing ZFS in the cloud is simply embarrassing. Pillar in its best year only ever cleared 50 million in revenue since 2005 when they launched Axiom. Even LE presenting on them in 2014 at his OOW keynote couldn't get customers interested.

I haven't heard anything about SPARC, but given JF's departure, I would say that if the major cuts don't come next week, they will in the months to come. Linux on SPARC has been rumored to be dead on this site and this site has proven itself to be very accurate. With Solaris in sustaining mode and Linux/Exadata+SPARC EOL, there’s no longer a future for SPARC. Start looking if you haven't already.

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Post ID: @1cla+OuQOlnz

payday is monday (end of the month).

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Post ID: @1uew+OuQOlnz

what sites?

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Post ID: @1vao+OuQOlnz

Are the cuts in ZFS around 50 % ? How did the management screw up so badly ? Everything looked okay until 2 weeks back

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Post ID: @1zis+OuQOlnz

What about sparc ? Is there any clear path for it . If the layoffs are on August 3rd . The managers should of known by now . And lists with names are prepared ...

If you are A manager or an employee and know something . Please contribute , this is anaonymous site .

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Post ID: @1cvk+OuQOlnz

August 3rd is the d day. Cuts in ZFS are across the board(including managers). Brace for impact.

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Post ID: @1nes+OuQOlnz

There is no Systems group any more, just new subdivisions of other groups.

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Post ID: @vzi+OuQOlnz

Is payday next Thurs? 😩

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Post ID: @dgf+OuQOlnz

ZFS test was the first to get split off from their main product org. They'll undergo a 50% rif next week in Austin, Broomfield, Irvine, and possibly Bangalore.

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Post ID: @rci+OuQOlnz

I have heard this too, but I can't confirm. If it's true they're keeping a tight lid on it.

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Post ID: @lqv+OuQOlnz

How deep will System cuts be? What locations will be affected?

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