Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

No WARN in Broomfield. Not sure if/how Colorado WARN might differ from CA or other states, but reading that CO does not enforce it. You'd have to pursue with individual legal counsel to prove a company violated the law. But then if the company is in violation, they don't even get fined as long as they pay the employee what's owed them. Not a whole lot of incentive to abide by the law at the get go.

From what I've been reading here, It seems kind of a toss up for whether WARN is that much better or not - however, having health and other insurances continuation, and 401K O match for 60 days is very valuable. The lump sum tax level issue I've been wondering about, but at least it's not too far away from being able to file taxes and recoup most/all of it.

There are many ways O could have improved their handling of this, and most likely other, layoffs. Everyone scrambling to try to find out if they were selected was crazy - employment verification, fedex account, prod your manager, etc. And then the infamous cold exit call ...

Hi

The package of Oracle seems not clear for me on the "unemployment insurance benefits" part, it said " you should consult your home state's unemployment compensation agency regarding to your unemployment insurance benefits. You may be required to complete an application at your local unemployment compensation office. " Can anyone kindly let me know which/where is the "unemployment compensation agency "/"local unemployment compensation office. " in bay area, CA? Somebody told me should apply online first on EDD website(http://www.edd.ca.gov), then wait for EDD mail you the application form for you to fill out and mail back - is this the right process?

Thanks for your info!

To the person who commented about Oracle layoffs before a holiday the last one I know of that affected people I work with directly was just before the fake Christmas shutdown

I say fake because their real goal was to take away your vacation hours without compensation.

This company is disgusting. If I were in a position to do so I would recommend never being a customer.

if I start working during WARN and do not inform O, what are the legal consequences, and how can O find out about it if I do not tell about my new job to any one?

Technically, you are still an employee at O during this period. They can recall you back to the office. It's a low probability that would happen, but that is not a zero possibility. It would be hard to be at 2 places at once no?

if I start working during WARN and do not inform O, what are the legal consequences, and how can O find out about it if I do not tell about my new job to any one?

Any idea of how many in NJ, no WARN here.

No. WARN was not triggered in my state from the Solaris layoff. I did not get a severance check on day 1--that will have to wait for me too (I assume after I sign a release).

There are Federal WARN regulations and there are state WARN regulations, look your state up to see what the rules are.

California WARN is better for the employee that the Federal.

SCA = Santa Clara

La Jolla (San Diego) apparently got WARN, which usually happens because 50 or more people have been let go from a specific job site (there's only one site in La Jolla), but I cannot confirm that 50 or more were let go there.

The WARN package is superior to the non-WARN in the following ways:

1) While your total severance is the same either way, with WARN you will get 4 regular paychecks and then a lump sum containing the rest. You get over-taxed on a lump sum, and while you will get it back you have to wait until you file your taxes next year to do so.

2) Effectively you are still employed for 60 days under WARN. This gives you time to refinance your mortgage or whatever other financial dealings you want to effect that are easier done when you have a job versus when you don't.

3) You have uninterrupted health insurance for 60 days. Other insurance continues as well (life, etc) until the end of the 60 days.

4) If you are in the 401k, contributions are still made and matched.

San Diego had less that 50 people let go back in January and they did not get WARN, so they got screwed compared to the most recent layoffs.

The good thing about WARN is you get the subsidy healthcare longer than those who don't.

@pyt

"The severance package ... whatever that is, is unrelated from the WARN... They should not be subtracting any of the 2 months WARNing ( regular pay ) from anyones severance packages, correct?"

Surprise surprise, they deduct the 2 month WARN pay from your severance package. So if you would have earned a severance pay of 10 weeks, after WARN period, you will only get 2 weeks lump sum.

SCA = Santa Clara

A stupid question:

What cities do the following acronyms stand for:

1. SCA = ? (San Diego ?)

2. AUS = ? (Austin ?)

3. BUR = ? (Burlington ?)

4. BRM = ? (Broomfield ?)

The FedEx & recorded message layoff right before a family holiday appears to have been planned by a sadist.

They should have spelled this all out and had a HR person brief everyone rather than this sh--ty a-- FedEx / Pre-recoded message crap... what a bunch of scumbags.

I've got no idea, please correct me if I'm wrong here...

but it seems to me that WARN is simply a notification the you are getting let go.

The severance package ... whatever that is, is unrelated from the WARN... They should not be subtracting any of the 2 months WARNing ( regular pay ) from anyones severance packages, correct?

AUS Warn: yes

Oracle does provide 30 days of COBRA for non-WARN employees. So WARN provides only 30 days additional medical benefits over non-WARN.

The good things about WARN: your severance is calculated starting on the day you are notified. If your severance would have expired within 60 days, it is extended. WARN provides a full 60 days of benefits.

If you find a job and start it within the 60 day WARN period, up to you and your conscience if you want to notify Oracle. I doubt Oracle is going to monitor all those employees on WARN. That said, I would be careful about any medical claims on Oracle's health care if you are covered by your new employer. Whatever you do, don't claim on both policies.

BUR did not get a WARN notice.