Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Think you need to google that after all, as names are not allowed here. Good luck.

Not only do they have no management skills to start with, they get no training at all and no mentoring from any other managers..... not that there are any managers at Oracle who know what they are doing to mentor or train anyone.....

I came in from Siebel. I started working for a manager who had no idea what he was doing. I thought he must a new manager. He did things I'd never seen a manager do. He sent internal discussions in emails TO THE CUSTOMER! He didn't have any status meetings. He didn't direct anything that was going on. In one of my reviews later, he asked me what he needed to do better and I said he needed to provide some direction, like when there was some task that no one wanted to do, he needed to make the decision who should do it. He said back to me "Well, if a developer is a good developer, shouldn't they just KNOW what to do". Seriously, he actually said that to me. It was really difficult not to laugh. I was in a group of people who didn't care about anything they were doing except getting out of work and the manager just LET THAT HAPPEN!

I thought he must be new at managing and didn't know what he was doing. I looked him up on aria....

Senior Director....... really, really, really.

Unbelievable. I don't how anything gets done. It's just unbelievable. Obviously, I'm not there anymore. Thank god. It's just unbelievable and they all get away with it.

There is NO WAY the oracle cloud will ever be any kind of success. On top of the massive incompetence of the engineering management they all attack and sabotage the people in other groups and sometimes the people in their own group. It's a horrible place to work.

Thank you all for the recommendations, the problem at Oracle is that they have people who get promoted but have no management skills or what so ever! They abuse their employees and when the RIF comes, they throw them under the bus.

The people who attacked me, knew what they were doing. They had done what they did to me many times before to other people. They knew exactly how to cause maximum stress. I believe it's done on purpose so that you can't recover enough to do anything for the 6 months that you have to file charges.

They knew what they were doing. I wish you luck. I wish someone were held responsible. The manager that f---ed me over, just got promoted. Evil a--holes, all of them.

I wish you the best of luck. I truly hope you can sue the sh-- out of Oracle.

One other thing to consider, though, is the stress level that you might be under for however long it takes. I left Oracle with PTSD because of what was being done to me. The two therapists that I talked to advised me not to prolong the stress I was under. I was so upset about what was done to me. I wanted to sue but didn't. What was worse was that the managers who assaulted me tried to make it all look like it was my problem to HR.

The intense harassment that goes on at Oracle should be cracked down on internally, but unfortunately it won't happen. The company itself has no conscience about how it treats its employees. And it is so hard to sue, particularly if you are really worked over like I was.

I truly hope you can, though. It would serve them right. Oracle is an intensely corrupt and sick organization.

One thing that would help, is if the employees didn't just all go along with it, as if this is some kind of normal environment.

Sick, sick, sick

I would think very carefully about paying a lot of money to an attorney. @PKHtSxQ-ova is absolutely correct about how difficult it is to sue. Oracle has an extensive staff of attorneys who are experts at defending the company against any suit.

I don't know an attorney, but if you are thinking about suing for harassment, there are a lot of restrictions. You have to be in a protected group by race, s-x, age, etc. and then you have to prove that the harassment was because you were in the protected group.

I was being severely harassed at oracle by three people and excluded from other things because they were making up rumors about me and passing them around. I think I could have proved the harassment, and I was in 2 protected groups, but I could not prove the harassment was because I was in the protected groups.

I did nothing wrong, I just wasn't s---ing up to the manager well and I came in from another company and was inserted in a group of oracle people who didn't want the competition from me. There was really nothing to do but leave. I think that rumors of layoffs have been circulating for years, anyone out of the main circle of buddies is a target. I think the thinking is that reducing the headcount will protect those a--hole's jobs in the end.

It's really difficult to sue for harassment. There is a lot of information online. Sorry I don't have an attorney for you to contact.